saadasound Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I'm looking to get some new lav mics for my G3's. I can't afford the lectro's as of yet, so I'm using my G3's for every job that I pick up, including features and ENG stuff. I don't have a crazy budget, but I was looking at the countryman B3's. Any suggestions? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomboom Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I used to put Sanken COS-11s on my G2s. I guess B3s sould work fine too; in fact, anything but the stock mics they put in the box when you buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProSound Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 http://www.oscarsoundtech.com/index.html Oscar tech mics are best bang for your buck. Just sent them a email for price list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I'm looking to get some new lav mics for my G3's. I can't afford the lectro's as of yet, so I'm using my G3's for every job that I pick up, including features and ENG stuff. I don't have a crazy budget, but I was looking at the countryman B3's. Any suggestions? Thanks Countryman EMW is a very good choice. Lots of colors and available in flat, shelved or peaked response. The shelved is the best all around with 4 or 5db midrange boost to compensate for chest resonence and or being buried under clothing. About $200 from the usual suspects. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saadasound Posted December 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I would definitely want to get the COS 11's, however, I believe they don't produce them with the twist locking mini for the G3's. I would buy the pigtails and just do it myself, but I don't really know how. I've heard that the EMW's were really flimsy compared to the B3/B6. What about Trams? Also, do you think that the hush lavs would work with the B3's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Rode lavs! I think around 300 or so. They're great (null) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I would definitely want to get the COS 11's, however, I believe they don't produce them with the twist locking mini for the G3's. I would buy the pigtails and just do it myself, but I don't really know how. I've heard that the EMW's were really flimsy compared to the B3/B6. What about Trams? Also, do you think that the hush lavs would work with the B3's? Your dealer can supply the COS 11 with any termination you need. Trust me the EMW's are no more flimsy than any other lav under the same circumstances plus the EMW offers better moisture resistence. I've 10+ year old EMWs that as good as day 1. No reason the hush lav wouldn't work with a B3. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I agree with Eric that there is nothing particularly "flimsy" about the EMW. I would be cautious about trusting further input from whoever told you that. It's one of the best "bang for your buck" mics around. I don't use mine much since I carry so many others (DPA, Sanken, etc.), but I highly recommend them for either wet work or budget-conscious situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I would also listen to the Oscar Sound Tech lavs. Very, very good values for the money, and you can choose between a "peaked" version or a "flat" version in terms of EQ: http://oscarsoundtech.com/ --Marc W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 +1 Also twist 3.5 is easy to solder. You can buy the plug for $4-$5 Your dealer can supply the COS 11 with any termination you need. Trust me the EMW's are no more flimsy than any other lav under the same circumstances plus the EMW offers better moisture resistence. I've 10+ year old EMWs that as good as day 1. No reason the hush lav wouldn't work with a B3. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris McCallum Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 +1 for the Rode and they have interchangeable connectors if you buy your lectros you can still use them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominiquegreffard Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I would also listen to the Oscar Sound Tech lavs. Very, very good values for the money, and you can choose between a "peaked" version or a "flat" version in terms of EQ: http://oscarsoundtech.com/ --Marc W. Hey mark, wich version do you prefer and in what type of situation would u use one version over the other? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 " Best Lav...?? " as you see, highly subjective, and there is no single best one. EMW's are popular, also COS-11, and making great strides is the excellent value of OST. some of the mic makers put the particular connectors on, to order, but if they don't, your favorite professional production sound equipment dealer will... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Hey mark, wich version do you prefer and in what type of situation would u use one version over the other? Thanks! Given the choice I would always chose a lav with a slight presence peak. Helps to compensate for for chest resonence and or being covered by clothing. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Yep, what Eric sez above. (And my apologies to Whitney -- I missed his previous reply.) The OST 801 presence peak has a high-end very similar to the original Tram TR-50: Some mixers feel it's a little harsh, but you can also make the argument that helps dialog cut through a shirt or blouse pretty effectively. I would agree it's a little bright as a conventional clip-on mike on the outside. But it's not that hard to tame this peakiness in post. Getting dull mikes to sound brighter is a lot harder. I think the 801's are more useful in this regard. --Marc W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyaudioguy Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 "it's not that hard to tame this peakiness in post. Getting dull mikes to sound brighter is a lot harder." --Marc W. Definitely agree with that comment. Question for you guys now regarding colors.... I'm probably going to pick up two of these OST lavs, if I get two, do you recommend getting two black ones, a black and a white, some other colors? As a newbie, I'm curious which ones do you find you use the most when trying to tone down how much it stands out or even try to disguise all together. Much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanross Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 I would take a hard look at the rode lavs. They pretty much sound the same as COS11's. YouTube some of the comparison tests with lav mics. Just remember to wear a good set of headphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 "it's not that hard to tame this peakiness in post. Getting dull mikes to sound brighter is a lot harder." --Marc W. Definitely agree with that comment. Question for you guys now regarding colors.... I'm probably going to pick up two of these OST lavs, if I get two, do you recommend getting two black ones, a black and a white, some other colors? As a newbie, I'm curious which ones do you find you use the most when trying to tone down how much it stands out or even try to disguise all together. Much appreciated. I use mostly black by a wide margin. Once in a while another color is handy, but black is my goto choice. If you're hiding a mic, you want it to disappear. If you're not hiding it, you want it as innocuous as possible. Black usually fits that bill, but every so often, a matching color will work nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suresh Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 EMW's are very good sounding microphones. I don't have them because of budgetary reasons, I really like the sound and have very good success in mounting them underneath clothing. Like Eric says I'd go for the shelved for standard use. I have the Sankens in my kit but I use the EMW's very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominiquegreffard Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Yep, what Eric sez above. (And my apologies to Whitney -- I missed his previous reply.) The OST 801 presence peak has a high-end very similar to the original Tram TR-50: Some mixers feel it's a little harsh, but you can also make the argument that helps dialog cut through a shirt or blouse pretty effectively. I would agree it's a little bright as a conventional clip-on mike on the outside. But it's not that hard to tame this peakiness in post. Getting dull mikes to sound brighter is a lot harder. I think the 801's are more useful in this regard. --Marc W. Great explanation marc and eric. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Question for you guys now regarding colors.... I'm probably going to pick up two of these OST lavs, if I get two, do you recommend getting two black ones, a black and a white, some other colors? Most of my lavs, in the vicinity of 20 or so, are black with the exception of one white COS-11 and one white OST. Black is my go to color perhaps 98% of the time but occasionally white works well especially if talent is wearing a thin white shirt where the black cable will show through, or when putting a mic on a Dr wearing a white lab coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyaudioguy Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 See, now that is incredibly useful information. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 I use mostly black by a wide margin. Once in a while another color is handy, but black is my goto choice. If you're hiding a mic, you want it to disappear. If you're not hiding it, you want it as innocuous as possible. Black usually fits that bill, but every so often, a matching color will work nicely. A white lav or two is always good to have. Get a set of dry erase markers in various colors and you can color the white lav any color you need to match. At wrap just wipe the color off the mic. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Thanks for the reminder -- I keep several colors of caps for my Countryman B6 sets since that's the mic I'm apt to use to "hide in pain sight." Definitely a good idea. Also, like Eric said, it's handy to have extra white caps that can be colored with a marker. Having said that, my percentage of black usage is similar to Jack's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyaudioguy Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Speaking of the Senny G3's, are the Southern Cali guys using the "B" Band? The chart doesn't show too many available freq's but maybe the few that ARE available is enough. I'm in San Diego and am curious if I should be concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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