David Waelder Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 A provisional operating manual for the Nagra EMP preamp fell into my hands so I thought I would post what I learned. I haven’t yet played with the device itself but I could borrow an example if anyone is interested to know more. (I have worked with essentially the same preamps on a Nagra VI so I’m generally familiar with the source.) Briefly, it is a two-channel preamp, with built-in recording capability, designed as a stand-alone device or as a companion to the Nagra VI recorder. When used with the Nagra recorder, it draws its power from that source. As a stand-alone it can be powered either through a Hirose connector (accepting 9V- 13V) or from four internal AA batteries. Its size is very close to the Sound Devices Mix-Pre2. At 7.5 x 2 x 6.9” the Nagra is slightly smaller than the SD unit but only slightly. Weight, with batteries, is 2.2 pounds. According to Nagra, the preamps in the EMP are essentially the same as those used in the Nagra VI recorder. That would make them among the very best available in any portable device. Frequency response runs from 10 Hz to above 40 kHz and is flat from 20 Hz. Nagra claims a S/N of better than 114 dB. The pots are a match to the Nagra VI design. While there is no full-scale meter, there are three colored lights immediately above each knob. They are programmed at the factory to come on RED @ -1 dBFS, YELLOW @ -9 dBFS and GREEN @ -30 dBFS. Internal switches permit the user to re-set the lights to suit their own preferences. Phantom power is available, of course, and there are built-in limiters that may be engaged or disengaged for each channel individually. One can also choose a fast or slow attack time. Lights, independent of the three lights above each channel fader, indicate limiter activity. Two low-end filters may be independently engaged for each channel or one may operate flat. The low cut filter has no effect on program material above 60 Hz. Below 60 Hz, the graph line plunges like a diver. This is a welcome addition to the preamp design, providing a steep reduction in low frequency response for wind and handling noise without any effect on the deepest bass voices or even most instruments. The second position, called Vortex, provides a gentle slope beginning at a higher frequency and yielding about 4 dB of reduction at 100 Hz and more than 10 dB at 50 Hz. This is designed for effective wind control in blustery conditions with minimal effect on low voices. Nagra makes a point of emphasizing that the filters are hardware designs and not implemented through software. While the ability to change slopes and settings is sacrificed, the effectiveness of software filters is limited because they come later in the chain. With low frequency rumble, like wind noise, the circuit may already overloaded before the software filters come online. Inputs and outputs are via standard XLR connections. Output levels are adjustable but only by changing the positions of internal jumpers. The EMP has a built in recording capability. Files are saved to an internal 2 GB flash memory and may be ported to a computer through a USB connection. Recordings can be made at 32, 44.1 or 48 kHz. Oddly, only 16-bit recording is supported and there is no mention of timecode. The internal recording seems to be intended more as a back-up capability than as a primary function. This seems a nice addition to a Nagra VI. In a compact box it provides two additional channels of microphone inputs with operational characteristics that match the recorder. As a stand-alone device, I expect its attraction will be limited. I don’t know the cost but I would expect Swiss precision to be more expensive than the competitive Sound Devices MixPre. While I expect that the Nagra’s performance is probably superior, I wonder if that’s a distinction one would hear in most film applications. On the other hand, for people doing music recording, it offers the best performance in a small and user-friendly package. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) The recorder is Nagra's LE (Law Enforcement) recorder. Edited December 16, 2011 by studiomprd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Strangely, seems like the guys who decide what new product to make at Nagra need a reality check... Or, they make so much money elsewhere (nagravision, and other branches) that nowadays, the audio branch is not really looked at seriously anymore... nevertheless, one thing is for sure - whatever they make, they make well, even if it does not fit in... i guess the credit goes to the engineering nd manufacturing team... Dave, i found the Op manual on the Nagra website, after seeing your post... seems like they have put it up, but no other info about the preamp/rec on the products part of the website as yet... -vin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 " they make so much money elsewhere " " the audio branch is not really looked at seriously anymore... " but that isn't true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Waelder Posted December 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Vin, I hear you. I, too, wonder how much contact they have with the outside world in Cheseaux. But they have made some wonderful things in the past so a new product is always worth a look. MIke, I don't know what you mean by "the recorder is Nagra's LE recorder." Did you mean that it was their simplest design rather like Photoshop LE is a stripped down version of Photoshop? Or were you confusing LE with their LB recorder? If you meant to reference the LB recorder, I'm not sure you're right. As I understand it, the Nagra VI, the parent of the preamp designs used in the EMP, is fabricated in their plant in Cheseaux. The Nagra LB is built overseas. While I can't be certain where the EMP is made, it certainly seems to share features and design with the Swiss-built Nagra VI. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 I'm afraid to ask what it costs! --Marc W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Capulli Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 I could see it as a great front end for a cabled boom but I'm not sure I could justify the expense for all the times I'd prefer boom to be wireless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymz Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 I'm afraid to ask what it costs! --Marc W. Your fear is well placed if this is any indication : http://www.nagrit.com/catalog/nagra-emp-microphone-preamplifier-p-3384.html ..if that's correct, for the price of 1 x EMP, you could buy 3 x USB Pre 2's and still have a few hundred dollars left over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Dave, yes, they made wonderful stuff earlier. But now, i wonder why each one of their recent products starting with the Nagra V simply falls short... And it's not that they could have NOT done better, the quality of engineering, audio quality is all top class even with these products. Senator, why do you think if the Audio section is looked at seriously, would Nagra come up with such stuff, always coming up short...? I'd LOVE to have a Nagra VI, one of these, and more. Maybe when i am a millionaire... -vin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 I believe the audio division (?) of NAGRA corporation is looked at seriously by corporate, as the basis of the company, though no longer the lynch pin of the corporation. I do not think, the Division looks at itself as the Movie Recorder business (the way we here do!) and I get the feeling their business comes from other sectors, including law enforcement (etc) agencies worldwide. I believe this particular unit is primarily an accessory for the Nagra VI, and this is, of course my reading based on discussions with NAGRA folks, primarily in their multiple booths at trade shows including NAB, and CES. BTW, and for example: NAGRA provides a lot of the technology in Dish satellite television... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 Your fear is well placed if this is any indication : http://www.nagrit.co...ier-p-3384.html $2300! Yikes... But I'm sure they sound great. There are certainly lots of heavy-duty studio mike preamps that cost this much or more. I seem to recall seeing some Manley Labs mike preamps that were in the $5000 range... --Marc W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 Now where is the 302 or mixpre with recording and TimeCode reader? It is to quiet at SD lately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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