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Here is the situation with this new COSI swivel: - All OSIX serie units are now provided with it, but fitted with fixed screws (XLR only on side, as usual). - As a replacement part for OSIX serie, you can order the reference "SW-UL" instead of our "old" reference SW-LB. It will be fitted with fixed screws. - All E-OSIX serie units are now provided with this swivel, with both "violin" screws and rotating functions (as COSI). - PIANO, PIANISSIMO and Zephyx series still keep their original swivels. About COSI price. We did our best to limit the end price...but everyone has to appreciate two things: - Design costs are very high. All pieces (unbreakable) are totally new shapes. Moulds are numerous (and NOT made in Asia). Many many versions/prototypes has been made. - The unit is a real different tool as the usual ones. Is it a "suspension" (indoor) ? Is it a "windshield" (outdoor) ? Certainly both. Surprisingly good and ready for evolution (other external layers, other mike adaptations, etc...) Try it, and send us feedbacks !

Dear Wrinex, all the prototype testers have been invited to talk totally freely. We also invite them to make real recordings but they were all busy on shootings. On the video, the only real sounds from COSI comes from Rado Stevanov (high shaking) and the "Hey Bro" guy in Portugal (high wind). We may produce others videos, measurments and tests in...a while (but we are very busy)...but will you trust us ? You have the choice either to wait for the "world reply" or test it yourself. Some dealers begin to get demo units from us. Where are you based ? We can make sure that a dealer around will have units soon. Let us know ! P.Chenevez

New concept, technique and design ! For microphones shorter than 15cm, specially with short body end like Schoeps MiniCMIT, Sennheiser MKH8000, DPA4017C & 4018C, Sanken CS-M1 and many others. More infos soon ! First shippings before end of september.

Please come and see us at the IBC 2018 in AMSTERDAM ! Booth 8.C64 https://youtu.be/A0yIkfxWgJE https://www.facebook.com/Cinela-1471314373154513/

Dear Glenn, as you know, the dream invention is a desirable black box with a magic feature. Such a device doesn't need any patent at all because it's impossible to break and copy. Only speaking about the "recording transmitter" feature, this invention is exactly the opposite of the black box. This simple genius idea is...desirable for all manufacturers, as you perfectly know and as everyone is able to notice. No doubt that the only way to protect it is the patent option...with predictible troubles only solvable by lawyers. Certainly tricky and expensive. My question is more a questioning: You naturally deserve to get the highest thankfulness regarding intellectual property, for this feature and for all other devices that you designed. Not so simple, I guess, if I refer (for example) to articles of The Economist regarding the Patent Controversy, written in 1850-1875. Good luck and thank you again for all your work that helps customers in their daily work. P.Chenevez Cinela

"Lavallier" microphone: the name comes from Louise Françoise de La Baume Le Blanc, duchess de La Vallière (and mistress "paramour" of king Louis XIV). La "lavallière" is a very nice kind of...tie !

Dear Claus, your issues are now well known. The CCM is known to be RF sensitive under certain conditions. In accordance with Schoeps (with their design) we now provide our Minix suspensions (OSIX CCM doesn't exist anymore) with an RF filter which works well with the Lectro and other TXs. If you feel to do it "at home", we can send you the choke that you'll have to solder in the XLR. Please let me know ! P.Chenevez

The new LEO (Leonard ball) has exactly the same dimensions than the old version. The possibility to use the 2 fabric covers and the fur of the old version was part of the specifications for the drawing of the new version, so yes you can use the cover and fur of the old model. The product references for buying the cage only (without covers and without fur) are: LEO-20WW (Schoeps CMC 20mm) LEO-22aWW (Neumann KM140/150 21.8mm) LEO-22bWW (Neumann KM184/185, KMA/D 22.1mm) LEO-25WW (Sennheiser MKH40/50 25mm) LEO-20MSWW (Schoeps MS double holes 2x20mm) (in this case the bottom cover need to be change)

The new LEO range is now available ! Unbreakable material. New design. LEO-20 for Schoeps CMC LEO-20-MS for CMC + CCM8 LEO-22 for Neumann KM series LEO-25 for Sennheiser MKH40/50 more infos at: http://www.cinela.fr/catalog.php

Ha ha, Glen, of course I understood that. It was à joke from me. The live performance is so nicely connected to the recording technique. Thank you for sharing this ! Philippe

I saw this video yesterday, quickly. Let me remind those very nice colors and atmos. What a sound and emotion. Did you use a 24 tracks recorder ? Thank you for this work Glen. Crazy, you do not seem that old... Philippe

A little information, based on our first experimentations few years ago. Looking for the lowest "sponge effect", the Kelly foam was the best material in comparison with many other ones. The only BIG risk is to apply the waterproof treatment (Nikwax) on the foam itself ! If you do that, the speedy water drops will go inside the foam cells very easily but will NOT go out !!! The Nikwax treatment is definitely made to be generously applied on the fabric under the foam. Philippe from Cinela

Dear Henrimic, David and everyone, If we succeed, the LEO may come in a new design...in a while. To be very simple: - it will not fit the MKH30+40/50 (definitely toooo big for the LEO). - there will be a version 2 x 20mm (For CMC + CCM8) - if we have enough requests, there could be a way to make a 25+19mm (MKH30+8050) ! Philippe

Good question from Simon ! I have at least one little answer. Unfortunately I will not be at the NAB this year, but you'll find two prizes from Cinela at the Ramps/JW party: - A full Pianissimo windshield with many accessories - E-OSIX suspension for several mikes Have a great NAB ! P. Chenevez

Martin, maybe Wandering Ear gives the exact reason (I don't know) but he's also convinced that rumbles may affect something in the input section. Generally, handheld microphones are compensated for proximity effect, so it naturally filters low frequencies...a lot. Pressure microphones (omnidirectional) also have a much lower sensitivity to low frequency rumbles. 4017C (or 4018, 4011) gives a lot of rumbles, but other well-known "pressure-gradient" mikes are sooo sensitive (CCM8, MKH8040/50) If you happen to make a test with B preamp or even C preamp + LC60, tell me about the result ! Philippe

Martin, all I can say is: what I hear and know let me think about a hard rumble issue, but maybe I'm wrong of course. The 4017C is well known to provide a high level of rumble that needs to be filtered. About Nomad, I had a look at characteristics (documentation) and I only found values of fcy cutoff but no indication of slope. It's also very difficult to know if filters are close to inputs or far away on the chain. On my opinion, most robust microphone filters are very close to inputs, analog and high slope. A handheld mike doesn't have that high rumble level. What do you call the "Cub" ? Sanken one ? The CUB-01 has a real filtering below 100Hz. Another explanation could be the input impedance of the Nomad: around 1kohms which can be considered a bit low for some microphones in front of hard signals (rumbles). In fact I would be interested to know how your 4017+Nomad would behave with the B preamp. Or 4017C + LC60 + Nomad, or ???MiniCMIT ! Good luck in your investigations !

Martin, what I can hear on your recordings let me definitely think about a pb related to low rumbles. I don't know so much about the Nomad but I wouldn't be surprised if the HP filters (low slope ??) may be far away after the input in the audio chain. The very first stage may be affected by these rumbles. You need to try with a high slope filter between the 4017C and the Nomad input (Schoeps LC60). The other way would be to try with a B preamp that integrates a hidden 50Hz +18dB/oct (not speaking about the ring filters). If possible you can also try with the new MiniCMIT which integrates a fantastic +24dB/oct 70Hz. Good luck !

Martin, I totally understand that it is not a rumble noise, but you are speaking about a noise that occurs with two different mikes when you bump the body. This can be a case where the very high amplitude of the rumble can affect preamps, limiters, transmitters, etc... Let me join Philip's answer: does it occur with other systems ? any kind ?

Martin, did you check out the very low frequency influence ? With bumps or simple movements, many microphones like the DPA 4017C generates these low rumbles that can affect different kinds of electronic circuits or even transmitters. In what equipment do you plug your mikes ? I would personally try a high slope filter like the Schoeps LC60 (or equivalent) between the mike and anything else ! Just to say....

Dear Derek and VAS, I think you, both, simply express the very hard compromise everyone has to choose and accept. Derek: we would love to make a smaller basket, but efficiency may decrease very quickly as the size decrease. Let's see what we will do "smaller" in the future, but this will be another level of performance. VAS: very good idea to make this comparison. we'll certainly do it in the next measurement session. Anyway, the MiniCMIT may be considered a bit "lost" in the large Piano volume ! We, manufacturers, are completely stressed between size, weight and efficiency !

Dear users, the awaited Schoeps MiniCMIT is there...and fits perfectly in the PIANISSIMO windshield ! Here are the links to appreciate the wind test comparison with the well known CMIT in PIANO: www.facebook.com/pages/Cinela/1471314373154513 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpeDd-Bz-Yk Good luck for this new Blue ! P.Chenevez CINELA

...not to forget that the SuperCMIT process is a very specific algorithm using two signals (the main capsule and the extra rear one). The goal is first to cancel the diffuse field (opposed to the direct one) which is totally not the concept of the DNS-2 ! A large group of far away cicadas can effectively create such a diffuse field...but cicadas are cicadas. Just remember the horrible vuvuzelas in South Africa world football cup: the very first 50 SuperCMIT microphones were very promising...but vuvuzelas are vuvuzelas !

Tyler, you'll miss us. What a great story with our young company Cinela. You were one of the first, 10 years ago. Our session in Toronto (2013) has been a wonderful experience. Thank you. Many wishes for your new job and life ! Philippe and Nelly

Hi everyone, specially from LA or around. if someone can help about this stolen equipment (full list in the PDF attached). It's a complete sound cart ! it occured during the night 2nd/3rd september in the Los Angeles area... Thank you for our friend sound mixer "Madone" and our partner company DC AUDIO in Paris (rental). Philippe 1 MULTICOUPLER OCTOPACK + ANTENNA ALP 650 # 10221/951-754 1 RF receiver AUDIO LTD DX # 808605 1/2 1 RF receiver AUDIO LTD DX # 014083 2 RF transmitters SENNHEISER SK 2000 # SK-123440 1 recorder ZAXCOM DEVA 5.8 # 20214 1 accessory for Audio Ltd: VDB L-48V 1 lithium Battery IDX NPS/N 2 Time Code Generator DENECKE SB-T # SB-TO493/94 4 Receivers kit WISYCOM MCR42 # 02451747/45/40/49 1 Wind screen SCHOEPS B20/W20 1 Mixer SONOSAX SX ST8D # 4330044 1 RF receiver AUDIO LTD DX # 911428-5/6 1 Microphone SENNHEISER MKH60 # 27113 1 Microphone BEYERDINAMIC M88 # 35702 1 power stationDCA PMI # P105 1 Battery DCA 12V-12A S/N 2 Microphones SCHOEPS CMIT # 3906 & 1746 3 Mikes SCHOEPS CMC 6 # 16929-17921-24068 1 Mike SCHOEPS CMC 6 # 39064 2 Capsules SCHOEPS MK4 & MK41 # 56681 & 80487 2 capsules SCHOEPS MK4 # 64425-70603 1 capsule SCHOEPS MK41 # 94655 1 capsule microphone DANISH PRO AUDIO # DPA 4080 S/N 1 SENNEHEISER headset HD 25 1 Windscreen SCHOEPS B20/W20 1 Windscreen CINELA ALBERT TRI-CCM 1 Windscreen SCHOEPS B5D ("Pavarotti") 1 DCA blue preamp 1 Magic arm Manfrotto 1 Trolley DCA 1 Kit of cables MissingSoundEquipment.pdf

Dear Dan, this is Philippe from Cinela. I thought my answer would interest other users. If possible, the best would be that you send us a little wav file of the problem. All noises are curable quite simply. What you describe let me think of a possible unscrewing of an isolator arm (the extremity may rotate back and forth with movements and the friction create the noise). In the other hand, if you feel a real low rumble, then what about filtering ? As it is important to remind it very often, the best would be to use a 50/70Hz 3rd order (+18dB/oct). With a 2nd order only (+12dB/oct), you may have too much rumble and/or too much filtering ! Please let me know ! Something else about the Pianissimo winner of the JW raffle in LV: Phil Palmer (CAS) made it ! For some bad reasons, the package was not there at the raffle, but Phil will have his Pianissimo very soon ! Philippe