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Thank you for understanding. Hopefully I'll obtain the skills to be able to pick out what I need to hear over time. Thanks! Ya, I think I might just do that in the meantime. The Big Knob definitely can do that. Even if it can, daws can sum up everything before sending the audio out. Thanks, experience is definitely key! I definitely realized that when I was going through forums. Audio is really expensive to dip into. I'll get there slowly. In the meantime I'll probably resort to mono on phantom image or even scooting myself to one speaker..unless I can find a really good deal.

Hello, A total newb here to audio work. I've been reading up on mixing and came across the idea of having a central speaker with one cone focused on mid range frequencies for checking basic eq, frequency masking, compression?, phase shifts etc.. Then one would come across the NS-10 with toilet paper, Auratone 5C, its modern clones (including Auratone's own duplicate of it's 1985 version of the Auratone 5C, but with more range and hi-fi sound apparently). But I cannot justify paying hundreds of dollars for those types of speakers. In fact, there was a thread on this forum in 2013 that chuckled at how much the Auratone 5C were selling for even though they're not really relevant nowadays due to advancement in technology. I currently have a pair of powered Yorkville YSM1P monitors. I don't really want to always move a speaker to the center for mono checking and then to the side again for stereo, but I don't know what speaker would suffice for mono checks. The work will mostly deal with dialogue, ambient sound, maybe some voice overs and simple background music for now. Actual music mixes in the future. I'm looking to add a sub-woofer someday too. For audio interface / monitor controller, I have my eyes on Mackie Big Knob Plus, but I'm not sure if that's a suitable option Anyhow, could someone please offer some recommendations / knowledge on suitable speakers for mono checking and a suitable audio interface? Note: I know an untreated room is basically a no-go for sound mixing but, I don't really have the budget for that right now.

Hello, A total newb here to audio work. I've been reading up on mixing and came across the idea of having a central speaker with one cone focused on mid range frequencies for checking basic eq, frequency masking, compression?, phase shifts etc.. Then one would come across the NS-10 with toilet paper, Auratone 5C, its modern clones (including Auratone's own duplicate of it's 1985 version of the Auratone 5C, but with more range and hi-fi sound apparently). But I cannot justify paying hundreds of dollars for those types of speakers. In fact, there was a thread on this forum in 2013 that chuckled at how much the Auratone 5C were selling for even though they're not really relevant nowadays due to advancement in technology. I currently have a pair of powered Yorkville YSM1P monitors. I don't really want to always move a speaker to the center for mono checking and then to the side again for stereo, but I don't know what speaker would suffice for mono checks. The mixing will mostly deal with dialogue, maybe some voice overs and simple background music for now. I'm looking to add a sub-woofer someday. For audio interface / monitor controller, I have my eyes on Mackie Big Knob Plus, but I'm not sure if that's a suitable option Anyhow, could someone please offer some recommendations / knowledge on suitable speakers for mono checking and a suitable audio interface? Note: I know an untreated room is basically a no-go for sound mixing but, I don't really have the budget for that right now.

Awesome tips! I ended up just getting the VideoMic Pro and Dr60Mk2 just as you said. Genelecs will just have to wait.. ;( Thank you! Hopefully things will go well. Thank you! Ya..Got DR60mkII for now. Upgrade later if needed. Analogue limiters is a big big plus! It's just a lot of money to put down at the moment. Could try one day when I get the funds.

That's really awesome insight, thank you! No, we're not broadcasting, so thankfully, there's ways around noise issues. Good points! iPhone's image would be good, but neither of us have one. We figured we'd just use the money on getting some audio equipment and work with the Canon 70D. We won't be relying on lip sync. The Canon 70D supposedly only allows users to change gain settings when it's not recording.. I just read online reviews, as I don't have the camera on hand. It'll be coming soon - my friend's family member is lending it to him. A separate audio recorder that also outputs to the camera would definitely be a plus. I have chosen an Oktava MK 012. The best mic that I could pick out within budget, which will be paired with a recorder with a barely workable preamp (something like the DR 60D MK II level). I have basically been tasked to get the microphone as close to the food / cooking as possible during CU shots. @The Immoral Mr Teas I'm currently wondering if old pre-amps such as the Sound Devices 302, SD MixPr are worth getting, since that device seems to be almost twenty years old, and degradation happen. Have you changed the capacitors at all over the years?

Thanks for the heads up! That British cooking programme is beautifully recorded. There's a good presence of VFX here, but I doubt any special dealers that caters to the pros would be within our reach unfortunately.. It'll be a challenge to get the sounds correct. The good thing is that a more "casual" cooking channel could get away with short animation and foley sometimes. For example, after we show the cook putting food into a blender, we could simply tell the viewers that we'll start blending until the food becomes appropriately mushed, and then cut out with motion graphic text + sound etc. Much planning needed for sure. I'll see what gear is available. The budget really isn't within my control. Even if it is, I really wouldn't be able to do anything different. Thank you!

Thank you! Ya..the best site from which I can get stuff is the US Ebay. The AT875R listings go as low as $35, returns accepted. A couple around $80~90. Audix and Oktava are well above that. Somehow The brand names really adds a premium price eh? This got me pumped up! haha. Thank you for the recommendation! The stuff on that list is quite impressive for anyone starting out. Apologies for going off topic, but is there a pair of nice reference headphones that won't break the bank? Many recommend the Sony MDR7506. Ideally, trying each one out is the way to go, but that's a tough proposition. I'd like to see the options out there. Aaah! you fell into the trap! don't do it! hahaha. Japanese is superb at marketing though..it's almost evil to an extent. They even have short, mind-washing songs playing in different departments of the supermarket, or even in big box electronic stores. It's a whole brain washing experience. Those songs are still in my memory. Even I can't believe it. Dude, you're good! There was one video showing him point a camera with a mounted microphone, in a windscreen, towards the cooking stove. Might even save money on skipping the boom pole if that's the kind of audio my friend wants. Might you have any recommendation on camera-suitable microphones?

@IronFilm Thank you for the recommendation! I'll definitely grab one if I see one within reach. Yes, the mics you suggested definitely have better reviews regarding indoor dialogue. I'm assuming the Oktava you're talking about is the MK-012? Could you please dive into a bit more detail on why the Zoom F4 gives outrageous value? Is it because of a really good preamp in addition to the functions working cleanly? @daniel @Chrisit will be factual. A cooking show will be filmed in a living room, and occasionally outdoors. My friend was inspired by this YT channel for the most part (English subtitles included). The lighting is basic, shots are not fancy, sound effects and bgm is clean yet simple. But that channel is a pro pretending to be an amateur, since the person actually has a license to handle puffer fish. The many telltale signs including having that apartment suite dedicated to filming, driving a famous sports car, and having lots of other details slip in his videos. I didn't watch many; it's mainly my friend who's gone through the videos. Anyway, I digress. My friend is going for the same feel. There is an Canon EOS 70D on hand to do the job ..more or less. Maybe the LG G3 I have could beat that camera, though it doesn't record in HDR. The current game plan is getting an AT875R microphone paired with a Tascam DR-70D (due to price mainly). The AT875 eBay posting accepts returns and the Tascam is from a pawn shop with a gold badge, and is currently cheap enough to make the risk worth taking. AT875R's frequency is 90hz~20kHz, small enough to mount on the camera for outdoor shots, and supposedly decent enough for indoors. The problem is that it doesn't take battery, so I'll have to mount the Tascam on the bottom of the camera for outings. Originally, I wanted to get an AT897 (also cheap on Ebay) since it has much better side rejection and a 20hz - 20kKhz frequency pickup, but will probably protrude into the shot if mounted on a camera for outings. A very simple online demo of the AT875R, AT897, ME66, MKH60 shows AT897's better side rejection and fuller sound. Not sure if the ME66 justifies its price (even on Ebay), and the MKH60 is way over budget. @The Immoral Mr Teas No worries. I didn't take any offense. Pro equipment does give a LOT better sound. and I'm sure I'll like the quality since I'M doing post lol The team is my friend and I. Renting top of the line equipment is a waste anyway, as I'm just starting out haha. I'm definitely wary of buying things from eBay, but any listing that accepts returns is more reassuring. The budget is sadly low..so maybe we'll be able to upgrade to better equipment if things go well. Thank you! It'll be a lot of fun doing a lot of trial and errors. As far as I can see, the rental rates around town don't really justify itself for what we get. A few times and we could have already purchased some equipment. That said, Zoom F8 and MKH 416 may be worth renting for a "splurge" somewhere down the line. It's odd that rental stores I've found don't carry top-end equipment. It's probably because pros own equipment, and those who rent probably don't care for those devices. I appreciate everyone's concern! Yes, thank you!

Hi all, I'm new to audio and sound recording, and have been reading up on the physics of sound waves, comb filter effects, reverberation, Location Sound Bible book, and a smattering of sample recordings for audio recorder and mic pairs. I know that users on this forum mainly work with pro-level equipment, but I'm really out of ideas for places where I could find good, reliable answers. Please allow me to give some background to my situation. I need to record footage destined for Youtube. It will be recorded mostly indoors in a living room. I can't really do anything about echos and reverberations unless I convince my friend to DIY some sound diffuser etc...but probably won't happen for a while, or ever. The video will purposefully be made to look amateurish to have a down-to-earth and honest feel - and it will be. As such, there won't be fancy 10 bit /12 bit filming with color grading, saturated colors, fancy shots etc.. The video is just good enough so people will want to continue watching and the same goes for sound - I'm trying to make it somewhere between amateurish and professional - clear enough so that people will continue watching but not spectacular absolutely no-noise, amazing range + clairty, shown-in-theaters film quality audio. I'm mentioning this because of a super tight budget that's not within my control..I know how tight the person's finance is. We're talking about budget entry level equipment such as the NTG 2 with Tascam dr-60dmkii. I've looked all over but found nothing other than Tascam, Zoom on the recorder front, and NTG 2, Audio Technica 875R, and maybe Audix SCX-1HC on the mic front. I just can't make myself hit the buy button because that's not what I would spend my own money on, and there is some audible noise with NTG 2 and Tascam dr-60dmkiii pairing. Frankly, any budget recorder will probably have noise with low output mics due to cheap pre-amp. So I discovered some threads on this forum that mentioned preamps..such as this thread and that thread. Will connecting a good preamp to the microphone and simply using a balanced level input recorder (Tascam Dr-40) as a bit bucket give better results than NTG 2 + budget recorder preamps? Good budget preamps such as Sound Devices MM1/MP1 are overbudget, but there are a few Shure FP23s on ebay that are within reach. But FP23 seem to have come out in 2000. I'm wondering if it's still usable due to capacitor degradation. I have no knowledge about electronics so I'm simply guessing. Thank you in advance. Any help is greatly appreciated!