Jeff Wexler Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 There is a new windscreen from Cinela, this one made to fit short shotgun microphones like the Schoeps CMIT-5. I love my first Zephyx windscreen and use it every day, but it only fits a short microphone. Cinela promised a longer one and I just had a chance to see it at Coffey Sound the other day. Looks great, I'm sure its performance will be every bit as good as the shorter one. The oval "box" shown is a carrying case and the windscreen is shown with the upper cover removed. It comes with the standard (always in place) cover and then 2 others for heavier windy conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 The problem with that one is, with that wild, techie look, I'd be temped to use it without any covers. <g> I look forward to any reports of how it performs (with covers in place, of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lightstone, CAS Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Jeff, You've made my day! I'm sure it is pricey --- but ready to drop the bucks for these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Heath Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Crazy looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I look forward to any reports of how it performs (with covers in place, of course). The larger Zephyx I looked at uses all the great design principles of the smaller one (which I have used extensibly for all the exterior shooting on the last movie) and the "covers" are the same materials. My expectation is that it will be a terrific performer, just like the smaller one. I can tell you from experience that it is not necessarily the ultimate gale-force wind protector, for that I imagine you really have to go for a traditional zeppelin style windscreen wrapped in layers of acousti-foam and so forth. But in those situations, it is unlikely you will be recording really nice sound anyway. The beauty of the Zephyx windscreen is that even at the upper end of its ability to protect from pretty seriously windy conditions, it has little affect on the performance of the microphone. This is something which cannot be said for most traditional zeppelin-style windscreens. And yes, it is expensive --- probably about $1000. I'm guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 $1300 is my guess. Sent from my HD7 T9292 using Board Express Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanieldH Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 More detailed pic: http://www.dcaudiovi...age.php/nID/101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 That is beautiful: like one of the eggs from H.R. Giger's Alien drawings! OK, so I have an active imagination... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominiquegreffard Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Would a sanken cs3 and a neuman kmr81 fit in there? How can this handle a bit of abuse compared to a rycote rig? Looks like a great buy even if pricier. Buy once, buy for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanieldH Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Would a sanken cs3 and a neuman kmr81 fit in there? Apparently yes. http://www.cinela.fr...guage=en&pid=80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 That is beautiful: like one of the eggs from H.R. Giger's Alien drawings! OK, so I have an active imagination... If only they could print the windshield to look like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominiquegreffard Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Apparently yes. http://www.cinela.fr...guage=en&pid=80 Good news! Thanks daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izen Ears Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 At last! An alternative to the "Whistling Rycotes!" I'm buying one today. Dan Izen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Palmer Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Jeff, You've made my day! I'm sure it is pricey --- but ready to drop the bucks for these. I'm in too... Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomboom Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 It's probably easy to mount-unmount for indoors-outdoors applications ?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I don't think it so easy to mount and unmount --- I don't think it was ever intended to be used this way (I could be wrong). There are several parts to the whole shockmounting "system" that Cinela employs specifically to keep the microphone quiet while in the windscreen. I don't know if you can remove the windscreen parts and be left with just the shockmount and microphone on its own for interior work. I think the general plan is that the mic is mounted in the shockmount in the windscreen and left there. I do know that it is fairly easy to pull the mic out of the mount/windscreen and then possibly put it in another mount. I imagine your question relates to so-called run 'n' gun situations where you don't really have any time to be pulling a mic in and out of the windscreen when you move from exterior to interior. The whole rig is very lightweight and since the windscreen is so transparent acoustically it probably wouldn't hurt to just take it indoors as is. Would you be using the same long mic indoors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I don't know if you can remove the windscreen parts and be left with just the shockmount and microphone on its own for interior work. I think the general plan is that the mic is mounted in the shockmount in the windscreen and left there. I do know that it is fairly easy to pull the mic out of the mount/windscreen and then possibly put it in another mount. This was going to be my question too. With the Zephyx, the back of the cage comes off, and you can pull the mic and 'bellows' (the part that the cage connects to) right out. I don't think that's possible with where the bellows seem to be situated in the Piano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Sorensen Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 A game changer for sure & a thing of beauty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 just received a demo unit which i will be trying out the next few days. here is a photo with a rycote windshield size 3 at the top and size 4 at the bottom. you cannot remove the bottom part if you want to use it indoors - it will need a separate suspension for a smaller profile. had a brief play with it tonight and it doesnt seem to colour the sound of my super cmit as the rycote can but i really need to do an A/B test to confirm that. still sounds very nice with the medium fur. and balance feels nice on the pole. though i didnt have space to extend more than 2 sections on my 18ft loom. feels slightly lighter than the rycote kit 4, and thats probably due to the lighter XLR's. time will tell how fragile the plastic cage is, especially when travelling between locations, though it does come with a protective bag. price i was quoted was £605 + VAT. this includes the main fabric and i think one fur ( i was told twice but as i didnt write it down, promptly forgot) with extra furs at £100. there are 3 lengths short, long and extra long. here is a link to a short video about the mount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 That is beautiful: like one of the eggs from H.R. Giger's Alien drawings! OK, so I have an active imagination... when i took it out on set yesterday, 2 people said the same thing. now i worry that actors wont stand underneath it incase a face hugger jumps out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanross Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Jeff wins for getting the correct price. I have one word. Badass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominiquegreffard Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 If you could simply take the whole zep cage out in a snap and keep just the suspension for indoor (knowing the great performance of cinela shock-mounts) i d buy it in a snap. A little too specialized for a one man band like me now but "one day she will be mine, yes, one day she will mine" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VM Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I don't know if you can remove the windscreen parts and be left with just the shockmount and microphone on its own for interior work. Yes you can, and it's pretty easy. Without the windscreen you have something like this (depends on your mic) : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Yes you can, and it's pretty easy. Without the windscreen you have something like this (depends on your mic) : thats only true of the Zephyx. the Piano does not have a removable lower half of the basket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izen Ears Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 My boom op just popped the cherry on my new Piano zepp and BOY was it good for me! HIGHLY recommended, it does fit a CS-3e also fyi. Less than $200 more than the very inferior Rycote option. And the two-tone fuzzy is very attractive! Dan Izen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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