MKH 8000 series

[miker71]

I've only just heard about this - the Sennheiser (omni) capsule covers 10Hz - 50kHz ... sounds interesting, excuse the pun!

<http://www.gearwire.com/media/sennheiser-mkh-8000-aes-vienna.mov>

I've seen scant other detail, anyone else?

[curleysound]

They should just call it the schoeps-heiser

[productionsound.de]

I've only just heard about this - the Sennheiser (omni) capsule covers 10Hz - 50kHz ... sounds interesting, excuse the pun!

<http://www.gearwire.com/media/sennheiser-mkh-8000-aes-vienna.mov>

I've seen scant other detail, anyone else?

My local dealer told me last week after they talked to Sennheiser that the mics will not be available before oktober 07.

MKH 8020-specs: http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/500965#

MKH 8040-specs: http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/500966#

MKH 8050-specs: http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/500967#

[Marc Wielage]

Just found some links for complete catalogs and price lists for the new Sennheiser mikes:

http://www.sennheiser.co.uk/uk/icm.nsf/resources/MKH_8000_Brochure_2nd_Edition.pdf/$File/MKH_8000_Brochure_2nd_Edition.pdf

http://www.sennheiser.co.uk/uk/icm.nsf/resources/Microphones_Price_List_2007.pdf/$File/Microphones_Price_List_2007.pdf

Haven't seen any U.S. links on the Sennheiser USA site, though. The press release from AES awhile ago says that they'll also be offering a built-in 192K/24-bit A/D option, which will allow controlling all the microphone's characteristics by remote, including EQ, limiting, compression, roll-off, etc. And this thing is incredibly tiny -- 3" long, and it weighs 2 ounces, not including the cable! The super-cardioid claims to be flat to 50k, and the omni is flat to 60k, which is scary.

Can't wait to see somebody compare this to a Schoeps CMC641.

--Marc W.

[Eric Toline]

Just found some links for complete catalogs and price lists for the new Sennheiser mikes:

http://www.sennheiser.co.uk/uk/icm.nsf/resources/MKH_8000_Brochure_2nd_Edition.pdf/$File/MKH_8000_Brochure_2nd_Edition.pdf

http://www.sennheiser.co.uk/uk/icm.nsf/resources/Microphones_Price_List_2007.pdf/$File/Microphones_Price_List_2007.pdf

Haven't seen any U.S. links on the Sennheiser USA site, though. The press release from AES awhile ago says that they'll also be offering a built-in 192K/24-bit A/D option, which will allow controlling all the microphone's characteristics by remote, including EQ, limiting, compression, roll-off, etc. And this thing is incredibly tiny -- 3" long, and it weighs 2 ounces, not including the cable! The super-cardioid claims to be flat to 50k, and the omni is flat to 60k, which is scary.

Can't wait to see somebody compare this to a Schoeps CMC641.

--Marc W.

FYI: The prices are in GBP. The GBP of 745 for the microphone works out to $1515 USD. The conversion rate is GBP X 2.03401 = USD.

Eric

[Noah Timan]

And this thing is incredibly tiny -- 3" long, and it weighs 2 ounces, not including the cable! The super-cardioid claims to be flat to 50k, and \

That was one of the things that really impressed me about it when I saw it at AES last week -- the small size.  I didn't really get a good listen in, though.

[Alan]

Where is the high pass module? No roll off?

Alan

[Jeff Wexler]

Where is the high pass module? No roll off?

Alan

After watching John Coffey's video I was struck by how much this new Sennheiser microphone "system" mimics the Schoeps colette series we have used all these years --- it really looks like they went out of their way to produce a product lineup that provides most all of the features we have had with the Schoeps. Now we just have to see how it sounds. Things like "flat to 50K" are totally meaningless to me --- I want to get my hands on one and really listen...

Regards,  Jeff Wexler

[old school]

First of all, Thanks to JohnC for the post on R.A.M.P.S. and JWS about the AES in NYC.... Crude  production values, but worthy IMO. As Jeff points out, the proof will be the sound. The system looks good, hope it sounds good. I for one look forward to checking it out. More tools, better tools, life can be sweet, even for sound peeps. Thanks.

CrewC

[productionsound.de]

Where is the high pass module? No roll off?

Alan

Hi Alan!

I just read an interview with Sebastian Schmitz from Sennheiser in the german magazine "Sound&Recording" and he said Sennheiser is going to make more capsules (like a figure of eight and a switcheable like in the MKH-800). Active components like a lowcut and a pad will be placeable anywhere in the chain.  They will make an A/D converter as well.

So this is going to look like a Schoeps system with a membrane, a pad or a lowcut, a cable and then the xlr-module.

Christian

[Alan]

Hi Alan!

I just read an interview with Sebastian Schmitz from Sennheiser in the german magazine "Sound&Recording" and he said Sennheiser is going to make more capsules (like a figure of eight and a switcheable like in the MKH-800). Active components like a lowcut and a pad will be placeable anywhere in the chain.  They will make an A/D converter as well.

So this is going to look like a Schoeps system with a membrane, a pad or a lowcut, a cable and then the xlr-module.

Christian

Thanks for the update Christian !!

Alan

[productionsound.de]

Thanks for the update Christian !!

Alan

A few more photos of the mic:

http://tangerine.quickshareit.com/share/comp21de84.jpg

http://tangelo.quickshareit.com/share/boxed1bc630.jpg

It looks and sounds great!

Christian

[productionsound.de]

A few more photos of the mic:

http://tangerine.quickshareit.com/share/comp21de84.jpg

http://tangelo.quickshareit.com/share/boxed1bc630.jpg

It looks and sounds great!

Christian

Update:

I finally bought the 8050 I had as a sample. It worked on set for a week now and I am very happy with this mic!

It comes in a nice modern box including a clip and a foam made of two different materials (more dense material on the outside, big holes on the inside).

It is my main mic and it is replacing a MKH 50 and a KMR 81i (which I havn`t used since the 8050 is on the boom) with a Lectro SM TX and ph-power supply.

The sound is great, not that directional as a KM 150 but still very directional.

When you are panning the mic the colour of the sound is not changing as much as with a KM 150 or 140 or MKH 50.

Very good with high level. Good reach. absolutely NO buzzing from modulus or cellphones even in small rooms (like a DC-3 cockpit).

The mic sits in a rycote suspension at the moment but I was told that rycote is making a new smaller one.

Christian

[FSBELLA]

After watching John Coffey's video I was struck by how much this new Sennheiser microphone "system" mimics the Schoeps colette series we have used all these years --- it really looks like they went out of their way to produce a product lineup that provides most all of the features we have had with the Schoeps. Now we just have to see how it sounds. Things like "flat to 50K" are totally meaningless to me --- I want to get my hands on one and really listen...

Regards,  Jeff Wexler

JW,

C'mon in, we got a shipment late friday. the thing that struck me was the size. with the capsule and pre-amp, it is the size of your index finger.

btw, sounds good.

[John Blankenship]

JW,

C'mon in, we got a shipment late friday. the thing that struck me was the size. with the capsule and pre-amp, it is the size of your index finger.  btw, sounds good.

Sounds Good?  Sounds Good!!?  We're waiting and wanting eagerly to hear an analysis of how it compares to the Schoeps -- how directional is it -- how accurate is the off-axis response -- in depth commentary of its strengths and weaknesses --  and all we get is, "sounds good"?

You're a tease.

JB

[Eric Toline]

Sounds Good?  Sounds Good!!?  We're waiting and wanting eagerly to hear an analysis of how it compares to the Schoeps -- how directional is it -- how accurate is the off-axis response -- in depth commentary of its strengths and weaknesses --  and all we get is, "sounds good"?

You're a tease.

JB

I'd like to know how it compares to the MKH 50.

Eric

[studiomprd]

as to questioning the specified response to 50kHz:

who amongst us can actually hear even at only 20kHz

but yes, of course, listening to it in our own tests is the true test of how we each will like the way it sounds, and performs.

[FSBELLA]

JB (go colts) Eric,

Sound is sooo subjective. Robert in sales seemed to like the mkh50 a bit more.

for me the schoeps I mean sennheiser sounds real rich & warm (hate to say it, warm like a schoeps w/41 cap) there was a little reflection from the close wall space on the sales floor, from where it was connected to a sd302, and it handled it well. (very clean)

actually, JW was in today and listened to it, so lets see what the man himself

has to say.

also, Richard Lightstone has one on Dirty sexy money, maybe he can give us his pro input as well.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone,

FS

[John Blankenship]

FS,

Thanks.  It sounds like Sennheiser may have another winner.  I look forward to what JW, Richard, et al have to say about it.

More toys... er, ah, more tools... to choose from.

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone! 

...And GO COLTS!  We only let New England win so they'll be even more dejected when we trounce them in the playoffs.

JB

[FSBELLA]

jb,

if the game is in Indy, you have a chance. NE looks damn good right now. you are kinda hurting in a few key positions.

btw,

the thing that you notice real quick about the senn. is the schoeps "tv grey" and how small the mic is.

later

[Simon Paine]

The size sounds very attractive. If they made a figure eight capsule, it sounds like you would be able to squeeze it and a 8050 into a standard sized Rycote to create a nice and compact stereo array.

how does the 8050 compare to the mkh 50, price wise ?

[Eric Toline]

The size sounds very attractive. If they made a figure eight capsule, it sounds like you would be able to squeeze it and a 8050 into a standard sized Rycote to create a nice and compact stereo array.

how does the 8050 compare to the mkh 50, price wise ?

8050 is $1299 msrp. Less than an MKH 50 by about $100 I believe.

Eric

[Ron Lacheur]

FYI,

Rumor has it that Sennheiser's pricing ( and possibly Neumann as well ) are going up Jan 1, 2008 by 10%.

[gpiegari]

I wouldn't trade my MKH50 for anything; except maybe an 8050...

If the RF rejection, humidity resistance and general robustness proves itself.

Early reports ARE encouraging thus far.

Anyone know for sure if a true figure 8 is soon to follow?

Glen P.

[FSBELLA]

jb,

the mkh 50 has a little better "range" but the senn mic does sound better at a closer range. (3') we had to bring up the gain to get "more" out of the senn. when going past 5'.

there is a figure 8. thats what I heard from the sales floor. call Robert for more info. and a collette system, gvc etc. we had the body (your index finger)

and the capsules availabe (card and hyper)