snd.waves Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Hi all, just wondering if there is anyone out there feeding ext timecode to a Canon 5D? I have a lanc logger in my arsenal now, and have been considering this for some time. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vesterskov Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 As i read the manual, it can't be jammed to external timecode, nor feed external timecode to other devices. So the timecode is pretty much useless.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicole Hankerson Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 I was only able to send TC as an audio signal when I used a mark III Nicole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrider Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Last summer, I worked on a series where we plugged up Ambient Lockit boxes to the audio input of the 5D. Post was able to read the code from the audio track and sync it to the time of day code on the 788 I was running. So, yes, it is possible. We used timecode slates anyway, just in case. Post appreciated the redundancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominiquegreffard Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 I m glad to know this works well. Would you feel confident enough on this system to not slate for a run n gun shoot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 check with post. Not all of them have the ability, or desire, to translate audio track into time code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 No. Too funky in how the TC box attaches to camera and plugs in, even if post was onboard (better check). We find that an audio feed to the 5D works better usually. phil p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vesterskov Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Audio TC is not real TC, and requires all sorts of non-standard solutions for it to work. Post rarely likes it. What i was talking about was real timecode, embedded in the header of the video files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrider Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Because there was no way for us to verify in the field that the code was accurate on the audio track, we used a timecode slate. It was redundant IF it worked perfectly. So no, we didn't feel comfortable enough to use the Lockit to audio by itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snd.waves Posted May 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Interesting. 'I have a 5D3 and it now records proper timecode. I haven't had time to do any testing yet but that's a big step forward over the MkII and should produce a change in the workflow.' This big step forward was what I was basing my question, but admittedly i assumed this meant an external feed of code was available, jumped the gun so to speak. I once asked about the workflow of dealing with audio code on this forum and got turned away immediately, seems the process in post is way too much hassle. Will stick to the old single channel wireless senny feed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanross Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 www.lockitbuddy.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomboom Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 justan: constant TC device digger... one more bookmark ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Harber Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 On Wilfred we have been jamming TC from a lockit that I built a padded cable to feed into the audio inputs of the 5D and now we are doing the same into the Nikon bodies. It works well but get post on board to use audio as a TC source. This is easy but needs to be talked about. The locket buddy seems like another box velcroed to the camera that we could all do without so I built a cable the does the same thing basically which is to pad down the signal for a hot mic level input. Key was the use of the solderable BNC connector as well as right angle 1/8" Neutriks. Scott Harber CAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanross Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 justan: constant TC device digger... one more bookmark ! Pierre, I'm a timecode whore. I don't think you can never have enough options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snd.waves Posted May 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Thanks Scott for your input. Will definitely look to use this workflow and get post on board. Shooting with these cameras so much now it's crazy! (I often work for the company that created Wilfred here in Australia. On a doco with then at the moment ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonetripper Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 In the past I've used movie slate and got a cable built to jam my iPhone w the recorder's code and flash the code from the iphone app in front of the camera when starting rolling. It takes a moment to do and completely worthwhile for post. Of course there's that awesome thing pluralize (sp?) for final cut. I'm not convinced of sync boxes from converted audio code. Just a messy post circumstance in my humble opinion. Snap your fingers in front too should be just fine ( syncing audio is really not that hard if frame rates are matching ) * ducks waiting for shoes thrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Bacon AMPS Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I have a lockitbuddy but have stopped using it as I've replaced it with a TimecodeBuddy system so can now use my iPad and/or iPhone as a digi slate treat it like film and don't send any audio to the DSLR. The cameraman is happy with no trailing cables and it removes the potential to use the onboard sound by mistake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominiquegreffard Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Hi all, Can the canon 5d mark iii record true 24 fps framerate or it s all actual 23.98 that my recorder should be set at? I tend to think that it s all 23.98 but camera guy claims it can also do true 24. He s getting me to doubt here... Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominiquegreffard Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Ok i found my answer from user manual (duh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 That's not your answer! Drop frame time code is an entirely different discussion than what you asked. No time right now to go into it further, but be advised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Anderson Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 neh, he's referring to the numbers that are in the bottom grey box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Actually, the answer is in there... in the gray area it says "When the frame rate is set to 24 (23.976)" which means that the setting "24" really means 23.976. once again the answer is: RTFM obtuse, but "in there" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Yep, Miles and Mike, you're right. I stand corrected. Such is the danger of trying to read miniscule type on a smart phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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