RJBerto Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 are there any pitfalls to buying a T powered mic that's been internally converted to run on phantom power? The price is real nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gilbert Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 It depends..... What mic, who did the work, how nice is the price? I probably wouldn't bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 are there any pitfalls to buying a T powered mic that's been internally converted to run on phantom power? The price is real nice... To change from T to Phantom power they had to change both the capsule and circuit board as neither are compatible so apart from the external looks you will be getting an as new (electronically) microphone and if the price is right well worth doing. I did this with a 416.. Malcolm Davies. A.m.p.s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBerto Posted June 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Well, looks like I missed out on the mic. It was a 415 going for around $275. But the question remains... A friend of mine picked up a 416T that had been internally converted to P48 and I borrowed it for a gig yesterday It worked perfectly and sounded great. I think he paid around $500 for it. Malcolm, as you said you have to change the circuit board and capsule, is there any reason that internally converted mic would have sub-standard or non-OEM parts put in it, say as a cost saving measure or in an attempt to counterfeit the mic? Anyone know what it would cost to convert a 416t to p48? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matti Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 To do the convertion you would need 4 resistors, 3 condensers and one diode, if you do it cleverly they might fit in the mic - I would make an external converter cable Matti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 To do the convertion you would need 4 resistors, 3 condensers and one diode, if you do it cleverly they might fit in the mic - I would make an external converter cable Matti Matti! Your statement above is not quite correct. You have to change the capsule and the circuit board to do the change over. There are plenty of of T to phantom converters on the market usually in a metal xlr barrel. Canford Audio part No. 20-750 is one in question. It's a tad expensive but of course cheaper than the mod. (I don't know of one that is done with just a cable). Been there got the tee shirt etc. Malcolm Davies. A.m.p.s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Well, looks like I missed out on the mic. It was a 415 going for around $275. But the question remains... A friend of mine picked up a 416T that had been internally converted to P48 and I borrowed it for a gig yesterday It worked perfectly and sounded great. I think he paid around $500 for it. Malcolm, as you said you have to change the circuit board and capsule, is there any reason that internally converted mic would have sub-standard or non-OEM parts put in it, say as a cost saving measure or in an attempt to counterfeit the mic? Anyone know what it would cost to convert a 416t to p48? If you change the board and capsule the only ones that are available are the genuine Sennheiser ones so non OEM parts don't come into the equation. I had the 416 changed by Sennheiser UK and it was about 400 UK pounds. 2-406's were slightly less. I could of course not bothered with the conversion and just switched the powering on my mixer but somehow I personally think that the phantom power one sound slightly better. Malcolm Davies. A.m.p.s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matti Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Yes I was referring to those barrel converters by many manufacturers, the parts can fit in a xlr. And in the mic body if you are clever. My guess is those modified mics on the used markets are done like that. If you change the innards of a 416 you get a new mic with worn body and misleading markings, heh, btw if they sell the electronics and capsule assemply to you, you can put it in in couple of minutes without any tools other than a screw driver Matti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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