bmfsnd Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Hi everyone, I was approached with a dialogue editing gig, but they are strictly Adobe CS workflow. As a Pro Tools guy, would I run into any learning curves while using Audition? Just in case, could it still accept omf outputs from Final Cut? Thanks Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicole Hankerson Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 If you use Adobe Audition CS6 you can open OMF files with no problem. If they are using Adobe Priemiere have them export it out as an OMF or AAF. I know for sure they can export it as an OMF so that way you can keep using Pro Tools. Any other questions let me know. Nicole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Audition works more or less like any other current DAW, more so since CS5.5. To make it work on both Mac and PC, they rewrote most of it, they tell me. On the plus side I find it way more intuitive to edit in than PT, even PT 10. On the minus side I have yet to find a group of people using it for long form work on real jobs (but LOTS of folks doing shorter-duration projects for the web, games etc.). It opened OMFs from FCP 7 just fine. One issue w/ AA for me is that it's tough to get a lot of tracks and a lot of mixer faders on screen at the same time--they just don't shrink down all that far (VS PT etc). I've been seriously testing AA for a few months now, since I did some work for Adobe and was very impressed by their people and their grasp of what's going on in video post right now. phil p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfisk Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 There is no reason you shouldn't be able to continue to work in Pro Tools as long as you can get an OMF. I've always used pro tools and I've dealt with Final Cut, Premier, and AVID. Never had a problem dealing with any of them. Since I know pro tools really well, I've never really liked any other DAW, but that's because I'm used to working a certain way, and I can do things way faster in PT than I can in other DAW's because I know the ins and outs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Premiere>OMF>ProTools is becoming more common these days, but it doesn't hasn't been quite as wrung out as AVID>OMF>ProTools or FCP>OMF>Protools yet. I'd ask in the nicest possible way if the editors have done an OMF export to PT before, and what their methodology is, just to avoid extra work and delays, if you can. phil p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmfsnd Posted June 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Thanks all, PT has always been my choice, but I'm open to playing around with ideas since I'm more of a on-set guy anyway. Does AA have frame-by-frame control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Thanks all, PT has always been my choice, but I'm open to playing around with ideas since I'm more of a on-set guy anyway. Does AA have frame-by-frame control? Not sure what you mean by this? Nudge? phil p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 I was approached with a dialogue editing gig, but they are strictly Adobe CS workflow. Stupid question: can you convince them not to use Audition? If you already own Pro Tools, maybe that would make the most sense. I think Audition is useful for certain things, but I wouldn't recommend it for film/TV projects. If nothing else, the plug-ins available for Pro Tools are a lot more extensive. I think round-tripping things in and out of Pro Tools is not that difficult, particularly if you're handing them whole segments, either mixed or as stems. This is a case where a very experienced post supervisor needs to be involved to keep them on the right track, especially on the road to a final edit and mix. On the other hand: the client is always right, and if they have a good reason to stay in CS6 (beyond "this is all we've got"), then you may have no choice but to give them what they ask for and get the check. (At least it's better than Soundtrack Pro...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccsnd Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 with all that being said, you should be able to jump right into audition with little difficulty if you have to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 There's nothing wrong with Audition for long-form film TV projects that I can see, and a few advantages over other DAWs. But I don't see why the OP couldn't use any DAW that will import an OMF properly--that was sort of the point of OMF. If there are issues they are almost always on the picture-edit system side of things, anymore. phil p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Li Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 I've been really impressed by audition cs6, I'm told by the adobe rep they haven't implemented all the features they wanted to since the rewrite, but they're working on it. I have been seriously considering moving towards an adobe cs6 workflow since i got the master suite last month (i used to use it mainly for graphic and web design). Have had no problems importing OMF's, I used it to rescue the sound on an ad couple of weeks ago (i didn't record it, btw ). Ill start experimenting with longer form projects on it at some point in the future, would be interested to hear if anyone else has done longer form projects on AA CS6, see how it handles the increased amount of data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicole Hankerson Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Have used adobe cs6 for a feature film and it worked fine. You just have to have a work flow and know the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Reineke Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 If they can give you an OMF or AAF, I'd use the DAW I am most comforatble with.. and one that can handle the video reference file.. depending on the format sometmes one needs to render a proxy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Have used adobe cs6 for a feature film and it worked fine. You just have to have a work flow and know the system. Please tell us more==I hadn't found anyone on the AA forum who had done a long form project in CS6. One concern I have is how it handles change notes, and how the mixing is when a lot of tracks are up. thanks phil p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmfsnd Posted June 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Thanks for the feedback everyone. Ideally, all the concepts carry over. I just need to figure out where all the buttons are. I asked again if i could stick with a platform Im used to, but no dice. Ill be editing in-house so no need to buy software. This is a 37 minute short with 3-4 tracks so I think I'll be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccsnd Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 If you have PT just download it from avid and bring your ilok. No purchase necessary. you will end up with many more than 3 or 4 tracks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Feeley Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Maybe download the free trial version Audition CS6. I can't recall which features are disabled, but that and poking around some online tutorials/manuals/etc should help you hit the ground running. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=audition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Li Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Yeah i think you should have a feel around before you go in-house, i remember the first time i used avid MC i didn't test it out before I started an in-house edit, spent like half a day just trying to find out what buttons do what lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I was pleasantly surprised at how a whole lot of AA 6 worked pretty much the way I thought it should. I don't think you'll have a problem. Let us know how it goes--what works and what doesn't for you compared to PT. One interesting aspect of AA is that it seems set up for you to both edit and mix in the multitrack window, ie without dealing with the mixer page much, if you want to. This may be a legacy of the old AA (5.5 had no mixer automation), it also might be a nod to how a lot of game and web soundies I've met work on the short-duration projects they do by the hundreds. thanks phil p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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