Bob Marts Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 My camera breakaway cables are made with Mogami W2602 (4 pair) cable. I plan to make some new extensions with Neutricon connectors and I'm just wondering if there is a better or newer cable style than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 The Remote Audio cable fits the Neutricon connectors. http://www.trewaudio.com/store/Remote-Audio-Shielded-3-pair-Audio-Cable-CA3PS26.html I really like it! My camera breakaway cables are made with Mogami W2602 (4 pair) cable. I plan to make some new extensions with Neutricon connectors and I'm just wondering if there is a better or newer cable stlye than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 The Remote Audio cable fits the Neutricon connectors. http://www.trewaudio.com/store/Remote-Audio-Shielded-3-pair-Audio-Cable-CA3PS26.html I really like it! I find that both the mogami and remote audio cables are a little to large for the neutricon chucks. I usually end up enlarging the opening a bit with a dremel and they both fit fine. However, it didn't look like they did that on the remote audio enake I used to own. I never figured out how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Orusa Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I drill out the bushing (black plastic end cap) using two drill bits. One 5/16" on 23/64". This allows the Mogami W2931 4 channel cable to fit. Remove the insert and chuck from the shell and then screw the bushing back on. Clamp the shell in a vise or wood clamp. Drill out the bushing, keeping the drill at a high speed. This sometimes breaks the inner cylinder of the bushing, but it still mounts and does it's job. You may have to use pliers to unscrew the bushing. You can use ones with teeth without scratching it. It is a little difficult to clamp the cable in the chuck and screw the bushing on. It should screw on with only a couple of millimeters of space between it and the smooth outer part of the shell, although sometimes they just don't want to screw on that far. I've built three cables, each with two Neutricons and have yet to have one fail on me. Mark O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Trew Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 For a standard ENG breakaway snake, I highly recommend the Remote Audio 3-pair cable.The mogami is nice and flexible, but it has 4 pairs. Only three pairs are used, which means that the 4th pair must be cut off and left inside the snake, making it unneccessarily to large for the Neutricon connectors, and also means that the conductors are a smaller gauge than the need to be. The Remote Audio cable is made with ENG breakaway snakes using Neutricon connectors. it has only three pairs, which means the conductor gauge is large while still keeping the overall diameter of the cable smaller than the Mogami, for a better fit with the Neutricons. The Remote Audio cable is not a flexible as the Mogami, but it is much more durable and becomes more flexible with use. For some reason this cable is not listed on the Trew Audio online store. It will soon be posted, but until then it can be priced with a phone call. Glen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Trew Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Remote Audio 3-pair cable for making common ENG snakes can be seen here: http://www.trewaudio.com/store/Remote-Audio-Shielded-3-pair-Audio-Cable-CA3PS26.html. Looks like $1.88/foot Glen Trew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Orusa Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 I personally really like Mogami cable. It's soft and flexible, always lays flat, and has never failed on me. Redco sells the W2931 4 pair for $1.66 per foot. http://www.redco.com...pexd.asp?id=514 The individual lines are numbered, which makes them great for building short, numbered jumper cables. If they sold a 3 pair cable that's what I'd be using in my snakes... Mark O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Denton Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 My camera snake is Mogami W2602 and it has been faultless for 4 years. I want to build some more but I can't find it now. Has it been discontinued? What is the difference between W2602 and W2931? Also does anyone use the RF shielding EMC series Neutrik connectors on their breakaway tails? Much appreciated, Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 " Also does anyone use the RF shielding EMC series Neutrik connectors on their breakaway tails? " yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 " Also does anyone use the RF shielding EMC series Neutrik connectors on their breakaway tails? " yes. If they do it doesn't work as advertised. The connection must be unbroken between the source and the mixer plus the EMC connector works best on a mic level signal between the mic and the mixer. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 " If they do it doesn't work as advertised. " maybe, but I have some made up that way.. and I believe they are still working whatever the signal level is... of course I'd expect them to be more noticeable in cases where the interference is closer to the signal level (like mic level)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 " If they do it doesn't work as advertised. " maybe, but I have some made up that way.. and I believe they are still working whatever the signal level is... of course I'd expect them to be more noticeable in cases where the interference is closer to the signal level (like mic level)... You missed the point completely. Regardless of the signal level (mic, line) it must be an unbroken feed between output to input. A breakaway cable by it's very design does not meet that requirement. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 " it must be an unbroken feed " well, I have made some up that way, and not had any issues... like Chicken Soup, (aka Jewish Penicillin), "it couldn't hurt"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Denton Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Does anyone know what is the difference between Mogami W2602 and W2931? They are both 4 pair cables from what I can tell. My camera snake is W2602 but others appear to be using W2931. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Does anyone know what is the difference between Mogami W2602 and W2931? They are both 4 pair cables from what I can tell. My camera snake is W2602 but others appear to be using W2931. I'm not sure what the difference is - Mogami doesn't even list 2602 on their web site. Regarding 2931- I have some 2931 that have been using for perhaps around 20 years now with zero failure on the cable itself. I wish I could say the same for my connectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Yes, my original 2391 still gets used (15 yrs!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 " My camera snake is W2602 but others appear to be using W2931. " are you having a problem with it..?? " the difference between Mogami W2602 and W2931? " 329 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sounddguy Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Mogami W2602 26AWG W2931 25AWG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 what about the losses ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 What losses in what? Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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