Derek H Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Just did 3x 45min docs with C300 Rec run>>>Timecode Buddy>>>788 Autorecord and Sennheiser G2 Feed on C300 Besides the little delay in auto record (around 1,5 sec) it worked out fine. We had no problem with that as everything happend pretty much controlled. BUT: Yesterday different Client: a Interview direct Line in from SQN 5. Could not see Levels during Interview but put Tone to -20 as Line in does automatically. In Final Cut it turned out that my levels peak around -24 to -22. From my experience it should have been 10dB higher. (Limiter in SQN was on). That leaves me to the idea that THE C300 METERS ARE CHEATING. I AM PRETTY SURE THAT CANON PUT SOME SAFETY ZONE IN THEIR METERS. Anybody else did some tests with levels on the recorded videos? Are you sure it's not just final cut using a different scale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdi Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 My first shoot with the C300, will be doing interviews all day in a sound stage, and the client is pretty firm on single system . Any things to watch out for with this camera? Thanks in advance and Happy Holidays. Ferdi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 I did single system with C300 a while ago - no real issues except the headphone amp out of the camera is a bit low and I wish the audio meters had an expanded view option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan chiles Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Just did 4 days with C300 single system with SRA Rx velcroed to the back of the LCD screen, not ideal but it worked out ok. Also had a Sennheiser G3 Tx velcroed elsewhere on the rig so client and agency could monitor audio not to mention the Transvideo Titan transmitter magic armed off the side as well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nysounds Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 I've been working with the C300 a lot recently and I mount my QRX in a BEC with a Nebtek battery sled to the shoe mount on the optional handle rig. It's a bit weighty for shoulder rig work for the operator but mostly been working on sticks lately so it's not an issue. Headphone amp on this camera seems underpowered to me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent Lestage Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Here is a link to the C-300 camera menu simulator. Familiarity is always good medicine. http://learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/Simulators/c300.shtml?categoryId=22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus Wedin Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 So, I'm doing a shoot this Wednesday/Thursday with a C300 and I'm wondering about return monitoring. They want sound on camera and I'm gonna hook up with my usual umbilical cord, but I guess there is no real return monitoring output except the headphone out? Is it worth making a 3.5 mm adapter (my return connector now is 5 pin xlr) or should I just set levels on the camera and run the back up recorder on my mixer for safety? I feel that if the headphone jack is of poor quality, it might not be worth bothering with. What do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 I've been working with the C300 a lot recently and I mount my QRX in a BEC with a Nebtek battery sled to the shoe mount on the optional handle rig. Pretty sure that handle (if you're talking about the one I'm thinking of) can go in backwards, which puts the weight a bit more central/to the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShubiSnax Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 On a shoot right now with 3 C300's. Each rig has a lockit, two 411 hops, a Starlink transmitter and v-mount brick. All lockits jammed to Cantar and the cam ops monitor audio. No issues from post, just some whining from camera dept about sore shoulders :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimPitot Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 So, I'm doing a shoot this Wednesday/Thursday with a C300 and I'm wondering about return monitoring. They want sound on camera and I'm gonna hook up with my usual umbilical cord, but I guess there is no real return monitoring output except the headphone out? Is it worth making a 3.5 mm adapter (my return connector now is 5 pin xlr) or should I just set levels on the camera and run the back up recorder on my mixer for safety? I feel that if the headphone jack is of poor quality, it might not be worth bothering with. What do you guys think? You should monitor the audio off tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus Wedin Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 You should monitor the audio off tape. You mean from camera? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFsound Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 I recently did a C300 shoot and got bitten by something in the audio setup menu! No worries, I was recording double-system, so all good in post. I also noticed the non-standard XLR input positions and labeling (as mentioned above in this thread) with CH2 on the left and CH1 on the right. It's easy to reverse your inputs unless you slow down enough to catch that. What bit me was something inside the audio menu. There is a setting under "AUDIO INPUT" for "XLR REC CHANNEL." The options are to choose "CH1" or "CH1/CH2." As I wanted both channels recording independently, I set it to the later, "CH1/CH2," thinking that made sense. But what that did was to feed both camera channels from the CH1 input (redundant mono) and disconnect the CH2 input feed altogether. I discovered on a playback that my CH2 feed was not recording, so I then switched from "CH1/CH2" to "CH1" in that same menu. This properly enabled CH1 and CH2 recording, but the icon on the viewfinder display still indicated "CH1/CH2." What the…are these camera manufacturer's thinking?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 " if the headphone jack is of poor quality, it might not be worth bothering with. " you would know if the audio is getting into the camcorder, and if there are major distortions, hums, buzzes, crackles, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Futterman Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 I recently did a C300 shoot and got bitten by something in the audio setup menu! No worries, I was recording double-system, so all good in post. I also noticed the non-standard XLR input positions and labeling (as mentioned above in this thread) with CH2 on the left and CH1 on the right. It's easy to reverse your inputs unless you slow down enough to catch that. What bit me was something inside the audio menu. There is a setting under "AUDIO INPUT" for "XLR REC CHANNEL." The options are to choose "CH1" or "CH1/CH2." As I wanted both channels recording independently, I set it to the later, "CH1/CH2," thinking that made sense. But what that did was to feed both camera channels from the CH1 input (redundant mono) and disconnect the CH2 input feed altogether. I discovered on a playback that my CH2 feed was not recording, so I then switched from "CH1/CH2" to "CH1" in that same menu. This properly enabled CH1 and CH2 recording, but the icon on the viewfinder display still indicated "CH1/CH2." What the…are these camera manufacturer's thinking?! Yeah I got boned my first C300 shoot because of that. Why can't they use the standard indicators that ever other camera manufacturer uses? That's just moronic UI design if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus Wedin Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 " if the headphone jack is of poor quality, it might not be worth bothering with. " you would know if the audio is getting into the camcorder, and if there are major distortions, hums, buzzes, crackles, etc. Yeah, thanks, I meant..........anyway, I got the adapter so should be fine . Yeah I got boned my first C300 shoot because of that. Why can't they use the standard indicators that ever other camera manufacturer uses? That's just moronic UI design if you ask me. Me too on an erlier shoot. That Ch1/Ch 2-menu system is just damn stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Hey Rasmus, say hello to Alex from me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus Wedin Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Hey Rasmus, say hello to Alex from me I will! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan chiles Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Always use the stereo indicator when sending tone, on/off on L channel.. then you know if you are receiving 2 separate channels. C300 Is not that much different from old school shoulder mount Varicams and XDCams. we just have to self power our receivers and get creative about where to mount them. Previous generation ENG cameras never had dependable timecode generators built in either.. At the end of the day its usually the shooters that suffer with a big clunky rig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimPitot Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Always use the stereo indicator when sending tone, on/off on L channel.. then you know if you are receiving 2 separate channels. +1 It's not a new thing either, quite a few semi-pro (or whatever you call them) cams - Canon and Sony - have this option, most recently the XF305. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceSound Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 All the small Sony cams (at least back ti the Z1U) do that CH1/CH2 thing. Had a fellow sound mixer get burned by that pretty hard in a reality shoot four years ago when he didn't know the camera did that. Ended up with no audio once he killed the lav and thought he was just booming. I've always used the pulsing left channel on the 552 and that saves me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominiquegreffard Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Is there a stereo indicator tone option on nomad? I don t reckon seeing that option in the menus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Is there a stereo indicator tone option on nomad? I don t reckon seeing that option in the menus? No but you can individually turn off tone to any output bus - So that you are just sending tone to a specific bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominiquegreffard Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 No but you can individually turn off tone to any output bus - So that you are just sending tone to a specific bus. Yeah i thought of this as a workaround as well. Would be a nice option though. Thx jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 " when he didn't know the camera did that. " once again, back to the basic issue of who records the sound. after all, it is not our recorder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfergill Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 It may be related to the fact that the Japanese write from right to left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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