TimPitot Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 5 Channel with L/R mix tracks and 5 Isos would be better. Reality TV is either using 5 channel mixers or multitrack recorders. For smaller shows in which the majority are 4 wires and a boom, making it a 5 track would be more versatile for reality and ENG. The Slate will take care of the mini crap cams, and the built in camera send is perfect. Just add on more channel and 1 more track and I would buy it. Exactly. 5 channels are the expected norm now in eng work, at least in my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 The Nomad can do that, and more...just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Futterman Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Is the return input Ta5 á la Nomad or trs mini? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Exactly. 5 channels are the expected norm now in eng work, at least in my experience. Well, it's NOT 5 channels and it probably won't be since Zaxcom already has an extremely capable full featured mixer/recorder (Nomad) in their product lineup. For those who absolutely need "x*x*x*" in their machine, pick the machine that can do that! If I really want a machine that is totally flexible, intuitive and with a beautiful and functional touchscreen, why would I spend the time and energy railing at Sound Devices for not having these things in the 788T? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewFreedAudio Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Exactly. 5 channels are the expected norm now in eng work, at least in my experience. I find 5 channels is the bare minimum. 8 is pretty standard on the shows I work on. But, that's just my experience. Production Sound Mixing for Television, Films, and Commercials. www.matthewfreed.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewFreedAudio Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 5 Channel with L/R mix tracks and 5 Isos would be better. Reality TV is either using 5 channel mixers or multitrack recorders. For smaller shows in which the majority are 4 wires and a boom, making it a 5 track would be more versatile for reality and ENG. The Slate will take care of the mini crap cams, and the built in camera send is perfect. Just add on more channel and 1 more track and I would buy it. Then buy a Nomad 6. It's exactly what you described. You have built in Zaxnet, mixer, and recorder. If you need wireless camera hops you can add that quite easily. Or, you can buy any number of other products on the market. None of which come close to the feature set of the Zaxcom line of mixers, recorders, and wireless. Production Sound Mixing for Television, Films, and Commercials. www.matthewfreed.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McQueen Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 I'm sorry but ENG to me is 2 wires and a boom. Anything more than that falls in to more of a reality or specialty job. And this machine will be perfect for those more ENG or small cast reality shoots(cooking shows, extreme couponing, baggage battles, any show with up to 3 people). Probably 60-70% of my work this would be the ideal machine. Nomad paid itself off quickly as this will too. Just have to make sure client is paying for us to use those additional built in gadgets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemmerlinj Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Really, another 4 page and counting Zaxcom wish list for new gear? How many pages did it get to for the Nomad? [;-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 I'm confused jack, it sounds like you're saying the AES is replacing the analog, so there's the same amount of I/O. It's just digital instead......correct of wrong please. If there's 8 inputs possible (4 analog + 4 AES), and only 4 physical faders with no virtual faders, and its possible to mix all 8 down....then the 4 AES channels are controlled by _______? Ok here is the deal with AES. Without the AES option Maxx will have 3 AES output pairs - which is 4 direct outs and 2 mix bus. When you add the AES input option - which you will need to add for the transmitter option - you add 4 AES inputs on two pairs. The input option also lets you configure the inputs as AES42 inputs. So you get 2 AES42 inputs. So if you add the AES option you get 4 analog inputs and 4 AES inputs. To control the 8 inputs you will have 4 hardware faders and 4 virtual faders that will allow you to mix all 8 inputs to two output buses. At this point in the software design - though this may change - you will be able to choose if you want the analog or digital inputs to be mixed on the hardware fader or the virtual faders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Is the return input Ta5 á la Nomad or trs mini? The camera return, the aux send and the tape/mono out are all on TA5's. And main output buses 1 and 2 are on XLR's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 I find 5 channels is the bare minimum. 8 is pretty standard on the shows I work on. But, that's just my experience. That's rapidly become my case as well. I think the Maxx will find a decent market at that end of the price range, when a bigger machine isn't needed. It's hard to imagine a better or cheaper small run-'n-gun system. Though I am a little nervous about the one CF card slot. I'm often thinking about backups, and if the original recording and the mirrored file is stored on the same disk, and we hand that over to production, we no longer have the original files at all. If they lose that disk, we're toast. Is there a provision for a second drive? I did read <hat> but saw no indication of an external firewire or USB drive capability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn Posted August 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 There is only the single CF slot in Maxx. You could copy the MARF directory to a hard drive before you give the card away. Since the files are recorded in MARF it will be a very safe recording system even with a single media. Dual or 3 media recording is of course available on the Nomad and is a key difference between the machines. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Key difference is zaxnet imhoSent from my HD7 T9292 using Board Express Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmassey Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Sorry your shows require 5-8 inputs. I have yet to need more than 4 when going ENG/bag-work kind of shoot...and the Gonad will fill that bill nicely. I really like the built-in mixer-transmitter link, and if the only extra I am attaching is a Comtek or other IFB transmitter, that is still going to be a nice, tidy setup. And yes, I know it is the MAXX, but Eric's moniker will live in infamy!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn Posted August 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 I am sure all different types of wireless microphone receivers and IFB transmitters will be connected to the MAXX. The fact that it will still interface with any manufacturers wireless should make the MAXX good for any application. Putting in the stereo digital transmitter and the recorder allowed us to leverage our patented and patent pending technology at a price point that would allow any sound mixer to benefit from the features and the integration at a attractive price point. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 I find 5 channels is the bare minimum. Than you might be better off with 552, 788 or Nomad. This is a case where one size doesn't fit all. I have plenty of days when I only need one or two wires and a boom. So for those shoots Maxx will suit me fine and save my back - but the days when I need 4 or 5 wires and a boom than I can pull out my Nomad. Different tools for different jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldmixer Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 You could always use a little passive 2>1 mixer like the Peter Engh P-21 or the Rx emergency for that fifth channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewFreedAudio Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Than you might be better off with 552, 788 or Nomad. This is a case where one size doesn't fit all. I have plenty of days when I only need one or two wires and a boom. So for those shoots Maxx will suit me fine and save my back - but the days when I need 4 or 5 wires and a boom than I can pull out my Nomad. Different tools for different jobs. On the bigger days, which seems to be most if my gigs lately, I'm using my Fusion 12 and 4-6 wireless plus boom, IFB, and camera hops. So, the Maxx seems like a perfect small bag setup for what I typically do. I'm looking forward to picking one up when the need arises. Production Sound Mixing for Television, Films, and Commercials. www.matthewfreed.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 I'm looking at the profile pictures of the Maxx, and I'm a little worried about how the Maxx will be sitting on the XLR's in the bag is going to work. Just seems a little awkward is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTA Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 I'm looking at the profile pictures of the Maxx, and I'm a little worried about how the Maxx will be sitting on the XLR's in the bag is going to work. Just seems a little awkward is all. Agreed. Not sure how that will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Agreed. Not sure how that will work. Right angle XLR jumpers to connect wireless or to bring the inputs up out of the bag. An hour with a soldering iron and done. phil p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Are the input XLRs not inset like Nomad? It's hard to tell from that one angle... Unless there are new pictures I'm not aware of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanross Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 On the bigger days, which seems to be most if my gigs lately, I'm using my Fusion 12 and 4-6 wireless plus boom, IFB, and camera hops. So, the Maxx seems like a perfect small bag setup for what I typically do. I'm looking forward to picking one up when the need arises. Production Sound Mixing for Television, Films, and Commercials. www.matthewfreed.com I completely agree. I have been on the fence about the Nomad for awhile because I own a Fusion. The MAXX will be perfect for me and the jobs that don't demand as much. I don't care about Zaxnet because I never plan to own Zaxcom wireless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimPitot Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Well, it's NOT 5 channels and it probably won't be since Zaxcom already has an extremely capable full featured mixer/recorder (Nomad) in their product lineup. For those who absolutely need "x*x*x*" in their machine, pick the machine that can do that! If I really want a machine that is totally flexible, intuitive and with a beautiful and functional touchscreen, why would I spend the time and energy railing at Sound Devices for not having these things in the 788T? Wow. Why so defensive? I was just stating MY OPINION. I find 5 channels is the bare minimum. 8 is pretty standard on the shows I work on. But, that's just my experience. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccsnd Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 If you like this device but are disappointed it doesn't have more inputs, record tracks, or zaxnet, there is a solution. It's called the nomad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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