soundslikejustin Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Still waiting for a firmware update that will allow this unit to be directly connected to a laptop for file xfer or as an audio interface for other software. And it could be a great headphone amp for my laptop during a lunch break!!! Unlikely. Maybe in a year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blas Kisic Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Yeah, not as obvious as I thought either. Credit another local sound guy for telling me: push the PFL to the right once, then push it to the right AGAIN. That should bring up the edit keyboard with the current entry. Brian Much obliged, Brian. BK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blas Kisic Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Yeah, not as obvious as I thought either. Credit another local sound guy for telling me: push the PFL to the right once, then push it to the right AGAIN. That should bring up the edit keyboard with the current entry. Brian OK, I get it now - but the second time you have to keep it pushed right for a second or so, before the command actually kicks in. Not intuitive at all, but very handy to have, once you realize how to do it. Thanks again, BK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Hermans Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Unlikely. Maybe in a year or so. I don´t think that SD will implement this option in the 664. I wish they would do, but then nobody need an 788 anymore, except for 96kHz sample rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I don´t think that SD will implement this option in the 664. I wish they would do, but then nobody need an 788 anymore, except for 96kHz sample rate. The 788T doesn't function as an audio interface either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Hermans Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 The 788T doesn't function as an audio interface either... That´s true,sorry. I misread the thread and was thinking you want this remote things for Wave Agent. Too much alcohol on weekends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audio911 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Maybe a 664 USB Pre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomboom Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Only options now: USBpre and MixPre-D for that purpose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomboom Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I doubt that could be changed: at that time when we were waiting for the 7xx series I asked the same question and what I understood at that time is that it would necessitate a hardware change so I guess if the unit wasn't designed with that idea in mind from the drawing board, you can forget about it since it may be more than just a software update... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Mayer Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I doubt that could be changed: at that time when we were waiting for the 7xx series I asked the same question and what I understood at that time is that it would necessitate a hardware change so I guess if the unit wasn't designed with that idea in mind from the drawing board, you can forget about it since it may be more than just a software update... Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor Gyurkovics Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Simon, That is incorrect in the manual. Inputs 1 and 6 can be assigned to X1/X2 Pre or Post fade. Inputs 2 - 5 are Post Fade when assigned to X1/X2. Either way the pre fade only routing of Ch 2-5 is pretty silly. I spoke to Sound Devices tech support yesterday and they tell me that it is physically possible to have all channels pre or post fader, as the hardware exists in the unit, but it's not a software option they plan on offering. I hope they will reconsider. I'd really love to be able to send 3 different comtek feeds from different channels and still be able to mix with faders and not have my comtek feeds messed with. For reality TV with multiple things happening with pairs of people at the same to and a couple ADs following different stories, this is sometimes a necessity. Just my 2 cents. Anyone else want to chime in on that an get this request rolling? Perhaps it's better moved over to the SD forum for feature requests, but since we're talking 664 already.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Mayer Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Either way the pre fade only routing of Ch 2-5 is pretty silly. I spoke to Sound Devices tech support yesterday and they tell me that it is physically possible to have all channels pre or post fader, as the hardware exists in the unit, but it's not a software option they plan on offering. I hope they will reconsider. I'd really love to be able to send 3 different comtek feeds from different channels and still be able to mix with faders and not have my comtek feeds messed with. For reality TV with multiple things happening with pairs of people at the same to and a couple ADs following different stories, this is sometimes a necessity. Just my 2 cents. Anyone else want to chime in on that an get this request rolling? Perhaps it's better moved over to the SD forum for feature requests, but since we're talking 664 already.... The information you received from the techs on the phone is incorrect. There is no circuitry in the 664 to send a signal pre-fade to either Auxiliary track from inputs 2 - 5. This was a decision made in the design phase to simplify the board layout. We will make sure the phone techs are made aware of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBoisseau Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 The information you received from the techs on the phone is incorrect. There is no circuitry in the 664 to send a signal post-fade to either Auxiliary track. This was a decision made in the design phase to simplify the board layout. We will make sure the phone techs are made aware of this. Okay. I'm confused. I can send all channels to the auxs post fader on my 664, however I can ONLY send channels 1 & 6 to the auxs pre fade. I find that quite acceptable seeing we have pre fade direct outs available to us, HOWEVER I do wish when using the CL6 that we could individually select, on a channel by channel basis, to use the direct outs as EITHER additional inputs or as direct outs. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's an all of nothing choice right now. Are you sure you didn't mean to say that you can't do a PRE FADER send to the auxs on channels 2-5? Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Mayer Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Are you sure you didn't mean to say that you can't do a PRE FADER send to the auxs on channels 2-5? Tom Yep, you are correct. Original post corrected. Too many different things going on today after a very long weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor Gyurkovics Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 .... The information you received from the techs on the phone is incorrect. There is no circuitry in the 664 to send a signal pre-fade to either Auxiliary track from inputs 2 - 5. This was a decision made in the design phase to simplify the board layout. We will make sure the phone techs are made aware of this. This makes me so sad. A very odd hardware decision indeed. What will I do with 2 pre fade sends at either end of my mixer? Almost makes them pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBoisseau Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 This makes me so sad. A very odd hardware decision indeed. What will I do with 2 pre fade sends at either end of my mixer? Almost makes them pointless. This makes me so sad. A very odd hardware decision indeed. What will I do with 2 pre fade sends at either end of my mixer? Almost makes them pointless. Sandor, I'm just curious. How often and for what application would you need all the inputs to routable as pre fade to the auxs? Of course I'd like to have that option too but, for me, if I was wanting a pre fader send, it would probably be for a single channel, in which case I'd use a direct out. Perhaps there's an application I'm not considering. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snavarrod Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/891297-REG/Sound_Devices_664_Six_Channel_Portable_Production.html Just to let people know that B&H video have 664 in stock. The odd think is that in the "What is in the box" tab says that an Hirose 4 pin external DC adapter is included ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBoisseau Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/891297-REG/Sound_Devices_664_Six_Channel_Portable_Production.html Just to let people know that B&H video have 664 in stock. The odd think is that in the "What is in the box" tab says that an Hirose 4 pin external DC adapter is included ! I really doubt that, but I suppose they "might" have some special "deal". Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Gilchrist Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 I really doubt that, but I suppose they "might" have some special "deal". Tom More likely that nobody that works there has looked inside one of those boxes yet. Best regards, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulluysavage Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 If they are including an AC adapter, take it. I bought one and the dealer insisted "it's designed as a mobile unit". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris G Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/891297-REG/Sound_Devices_664_Six_Channel_Portable_Production.html Just to let people know that B&H video have 664 in stock. The odd think is that in the "What is in the box" tab says that an Hirose 4 pin external DC adapter is included ! I ordered my 664 from B&H and there was no external power adapter included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor Gyurkovics Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Sandor, I'm just curious. How often and for what application would you need all the inputs to routable as pre fade to the auxs? Of course I'd like to have that option too but, for me, if I was wanting a pre fader send, it would probably be for a single channel, in which case I'd use a direct out. Perhaps there's an application I'm not considering. Tom Tom, you're right that in some cases one channel pre fade for multi language shoots and such would be fine. for the show I'm working on there are multiple talent, and the AD wants to be able to monitor a couple pairs of them and control them individually. This is no different than aux sends on a proper board. I should be able to use them for whatever I need. Using the direct outs requires either custom summing cables or another piece of gear to mix down channel groups before sending to whoever is monitoring. How would you feel if you bought a console mixer and found out after that only 2 of your 20 channels had an aux send that worked, the rest of the knobs were just for show? I'd think it was some kind of error in manufacturing and be pretty confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roundbadge Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I couldn't put it off any longer.my current [crazy] car gig drove me to a 664/bag purchase on the way home tonight. no more 744 or alternatively ripping the 788 off the cart. now to get the RF/Antenna distro situation sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Quick question for all you 664 users out there: I was wondering if anyone ever had access to the "Space Bar" when naming Folders (Top, Middle or Bottom Level) The Space bar is 'Greyed out' when trying to name a folder for me and for what ever reason I thought I had access to the space bar when naming folders on previous occasions. Is it just me and i'm confusing access to the space bar with saving pre-sets or is it another issue. Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Burstein Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 I just had the space bar thing happen to me a few days ago. It fixed itself, and now I can't remember the current status of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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