Diego Sanchez Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Hello everyone I'm starting soon a documentary and i know i will be relaying heavily on radio mics for the main character. I just got told today he is got a BIG beard. I just wanted to hear tips and recommendations for dealing with this. I know a beard might not be a massive sound barrier, but i'm scared about noise of it against clothes. Should i go in the chest under beard or in the beard? Thanks in advance Diego Sanchez www.soundiego.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Can you get a pic of the guy so you can tell how long his beard is, how scraggly and rough his hair is and what kind of clothes he favors? phil p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Sanchez Posted September 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I will try. It is in Qatar and he is from Egypt, so i'm expecting a thick, scraggly beard and desert robes mostly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Reineke Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 A small lav like the B6 is often placed in the person's hair or on glasses. When interviewing Billy Gibbons I put a mic in his hat. I suppose a mic could be placed in a shemagh or turban as well... if it's allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Johnson Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 Try a b6 clipped into the beard with a toupee clip a few inches below the chin as far out to the surface of the beard without it being seen, if it's windy bury it a bit more into the beard. I had good success with this method on film recently where there we some massive beards. Virtually no rustle and great voice response. Regards Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 " I just wanted to hear tips and recommendations for dealing with this. " trial and error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Sanchez Posted September 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Thanks to everyone for the tips. Senator, i understand your comment but as i don't really have time for the 'trial' i don't want to start whit the 'error'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 " i don't really have time for the 'trial' i don't want to start whit the 'error'. " sorry, it's not "Plug'n Play"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Mike -- Diego is doing his "due diligence," as well he should. I'm surprised this isn't something you teach your students. It's called pre-production -- you learn as much as you can about the variables prior to a shoot and then prepare for as many eventualities as reasonable and possible. Discussing with your peers their experiences in given circumstances can be a valuable part of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 " I'm surprised this isn't something you teach your students. " I do, well, not specifically big beards, but I keep letting them know that every case is, and will be somewhat unique, and may well involve trial and error, and thus the time for trial and error. " Discussing with your peers their experiences in given circumstances can be a valuable part of that. " exactly, and reminding folks of the obvious is a part of that discussion, as it appears that the OP needs to consider that no matter what specific advice this discussion yields, trial and error will no doubt be part of the implementation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Sanchez Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 So after all, the director decided to ask the main character to cut of his beard short, so didn't have to deal with it! Also as a note for anyone, the Thobe (muslim dress for man) is very nice when it comes to radio mics, not much clothing noise, except when running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 Did a job with a bearded man recently. I found that most of the noise problem was his hairy chin rubbing on his collar. I used a mid-chest mounted Sonotrim and that worked well Head rigs can be good but outdoors mat suffer from wind mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Woodcock Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 I haven't tried this myself but apparently using a shammy leather pinned to the inner collar works very well, or so I was told anyway Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Gustavsson Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I just gotta say that a good beard, when used right, could be a highly qualified windshield and quite good for hiding lavalieres in. It is also practical when it comes to making phonecalls on a windy day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrd456 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 B6 in beard with toupee clip works well.Beards can be a pain,so use to your advantage if possible. J.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonG Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 I did a show in Louisiana with a lot of heat and humidity, and yes, big beards. Gotta say it was rough, especially since the cast would sweat like waterfalls, and were constantly fidgeting with their clothing. Wish I would have known about the beard/clip method, might have made things easier. I mostly put my cos11s in those rm-11 type rubber mounts with vampire clips on the back about mid chest where the beards would taper off. Less beard noise and sweat to deal with. It mostly worked pretty well. Any problems incurred were usually from the cast fidgeting or messing with their clothes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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