pvanstry Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Is there any rumor or info on a possible new audio recorder from Aaton? A follow up to the Cantar, something updated. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Is there any rumor or info on a possible new audio recorder from Aaton? A follow up to the Cantar, something updated. Thanks I heard rumors of an updated Cantar in 2013. Theres a thread on here, but good luck searching for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Rillie Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Rumours only. AFAIK nothing in the air from JP Beauviala. On the other hand, if you can work with 6 ISOs or 7, and mix track(s), what a relatively glitch-free and lovely sounding recorder with brilliant sound reports. Ergonomic city, but a bit heavy and real solid (comes with a price, I guess) Shines in classical recording and long form narrative film sound. Haven't been this happy (using the Cantar since the mid 2000s) since the Nagra. Enough of this fanboy stuff... but as the senator says, we do love our toys. Regards, Jim Rillie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfisk Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 They showed some cameras a Cinec, but I don't think there was anything new in the audio world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Vin I believe was talking about a Cantar update but I don't remember the specifics. I have not heard of any really new recorder model in the works, only updates - upgrades to the existing model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobo Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Rumours only. AFAIK nothing in the air from JP Beauviala. On the other hand, if you can work with 6 ISOs or 7, and mix track(s), what a relatively glitch-free and lovely sounding recorder with brilliant sound reports. Ergonomic city, but a bit heavy and real solid (comes with a price, I guess) Shines in classical recording and long form narrative film sound. Haven't been this happy (using the Cantar since the mid 2000s) since the Nagra. Enough of this fanboy stuff... but as the senator says, we do love our toys. Regards, Jim Rillie A beautifully crafted piece of art that has withstood the test of time. I was sad to see mine go recently, but happy to see it shipped back to its homeland of France. It was wonderful on a cart, horrendous in a bag. The sound... well you get what you pay for. Here is a thread from A4, the Cantar gurus in France. Interesting though, the debut of the Penelope Delta has been pushed back so long now I can only imagine it will be the same slow fate for the Cantar X3. Latest news Aaton Cantar: the last singing X 2 emerged this week from factory. Aaton r & d Department is working on the X 3 generation which will be presented in the spring of 2014. Lighter that the X 2, with the same size and shape (used the same bag), the X 3 is a 12 track recorder. The selectors are kept in the same position for the habits of the technical management. The onboard mixer is wider to integrate ten faders. Three modulómetros, each showing four tracks. The rectangular screen is four times larger that the current driving is in the manner of the Tarkan. We will receive more information in may 2013. Of course maintain technical support for X 1 and X 2, innovations in software and mechanical improvements will be proposed. The following will be: Sc & Tk Ids shall be on "long names" of files saved in CF and the main selector will be contactless (magnetic). This year and next, Aaton will deal with the release of the long-awaited Delta-Penelope. 2014 is the year of the "singing X 3", please be patient! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Wang Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 WOW! start to save money now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimPitot Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 It's in a for sale thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 (edited) " info on a possible new audio recorder from Aaton? " as always: <cap> and... " Here is a thread from A4, the Cantar gurus in France. " inverse <pac>, as someone did your homework for you... remember to say Merci Edited November 13, 2012 by studiomprd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traut Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I know a lot of people bitch about Cantars, but I have an X1 and an X2. Fabulous preamps and unmatched limiters. It is the perfect over the shoulder recorder. Expensive, but you get what you pay for. Mike Paul is my Guru. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLo128 Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I've been eye-Ing the Cantar and Nagra VI for the better part of 2 years now, but never been remotely close to affording them. How practical would it be to work with 6 tracks today? The Nagra is my avatar, so I just appreciate ruggedly built, extremely durable technology. But damn I'm afraid to put 2 mics on the same track without backup the more I grow older... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 In a chat i had with JP recently, i got to know the Cantar X3 will definitely be more tracks, more inputs, and many more features that take the X2 into another realm. I have #4 booked already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvanstry Posted November 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 He Vin, have you booked #4 blindly or do you have information about it? Release date, features, size and weight? Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 having worked with my X2 for 5 years, i would not call a booking for a X3 blind. but then, to answer your question, i know it is 2014, and is going to be lighter, more tracks, etc as i posted earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvanstry Posted November 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I agree, just really curious. Especially about weight and size. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 The above pasted info said same size, but lighter and with more tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 " How practical would it be to work with 6 tracks today? " many do... some more, some less... so... I guess... It depends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 With more tracks coming, I hope they do something intelligent with the additional metering requirement. I would think that a move to a more traditional metering layout would be warranted, but curious to see what they do. I'm highly interested to see what turns out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 "Lighter that the X 2, with the same size and shape (used the same bag), the X 3 is a 12 track recorder." Sounds like they are going to be more or less caught up to the other big guns. I would love to spend some serious time with a Cantar on a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 " i know it is 2014, " is it too soon to begin redesigning it ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Mitchell Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 I've always wanted a Cantar. It's shallow, but they've always looked like the most beautifully designed machines. The big hook for me is that they're supposed to be easy to use with gloves on, which would make them perfect for winter shoots (cold weather shoots take up about 7 months of the year). My only reservation is the cost of the thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngooch Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Something to think about. People who bought the first cantars always had a path to upgrade their machines to the most current feature set. Not many manufacturers improve their products in the same manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Fabulous preamps and unmatched limiters. It is the perfect over the shoulder recorder. Expensive, but you get what you pay for. I am with Vin. Having used a Cantar for four and a half years I have no doubt that the X3 will build on the qualities that made the Cantar the only recorder that I want to rely on. JP has been doing it for a long time. With Stefan Kudelski's help he built a stereo Nagra with rudimentary timecode back in 1967 - before he built his first camera. Check out my article on JP from the AMPS Journal www.timwhite.co.uk/Mr_Aaton.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margus Jukkum Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Thanks Tim for the link to your article about JP. I really enjoyed reading it and found it most informative, especially since I have been working with an X2 for the past four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmfreak Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Great article and a nice read. Cheers Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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