Parker Brown Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 I'm starting a commercial shoot with an Alexa this weekend and I want to try using a TS-C as the timecode source for jamming the camera (or at least have the option). I know the 1/4 inch input on the slate is tc tip, ground sleeve, but is the slate outputing tc on this same jack? My tc cables are of the bi-directional xlr to lemo type. Is it simply a matter of adapting the 1/4 inch to xlr male and running to camera? I'll rent the slate the night before and give it a go, but I thought I'd check in here as well. Thanks and good luck out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 <cap> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpiegari Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 TC output is on the 5-pin lemo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parker Brown Posted October 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 So I think <cap> means "Call Deneke". Good call. Charlie at Deneke said what Glen said, and also that what I proposed was correct for the TS-2 and TS-3. Once the numbers are rolling the 1/4 inch TC input becomes an outout for those slates but not the TS-C. I'll think a little harder next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Ask camera dept to provide lemo to lemo jam cable with the package. Problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Craca Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 I just did an Alexa shoot last week and have used my TS-C to jam the camera. I don't have the lemo to lemo, but I mated two of the Sound Devices Lemo to BNC time code cables together and it worked perfectly outputting from either the 744t or from the slate. One thing to note is you must have the camera frame rate and the recorder / slate frame rate matched before you can get into the Alexa menu to set it to jam to external TC. Also, the displayed time code on the Alexa menu is always about 1 frame fast than the actual rate on the camera. Don't worry, and jam often, especially if they switch to off speed or power up and down. Cheers, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efksound Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 TS-C won't output TC from it's 1/4" jack (as the older TS-2 or TS-3 slates do) only from the lemo 5 pin connector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Babb Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 the displayed time code on the Alexa menu is always about 1 frame fast than the actual rate on the camera. This I didn't know and went into pucker mode while the company was waiting for me to jam and re-jam and go into menus to check the settings on the three camera Alexa shoot. After a few minutes and 8 gallons of sweat the 1 AD called the DIT over to assist me. He said. Oh its okay. The display is never right. I walked away embarrassed and wiser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewFreedAudio Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 This I didn't know and went into pucker mode while the company was waiting for me to jam and re-jam and go into menus to check the settings on the three camera Alexa shoot. After a few minutes and 8 gallons of sweat the 1 AD called the DIT over to assist me. He said. Oh its okay. The display is never right. I walked away embarrassed and wiser. Something the camera department should have known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 " the camera department should have known. " it is, after all their toy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Babb Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I think they were enjoying the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I think they were enjoying the show. And part of the reason I hand off slates and/or lockits, and let them take it from there. I still don't believe our responsibility goes beyond providing an accurate source of time code that matches our recorder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylormadeaudio Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 And part of the reason I hand off slates and/or lockits, and let them take it from there. I still don't believe our responsibility goes beyond providing an accurate source of time code that matches our recorder. yup. +11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I still don't believe our responsibility goes beyond providing an accurate source of time code that matches our recorder. I agree with that, too. But I still check the monitor as the day progresses to see if there's a big difference between TC slate and displayed timecode in the on-set monitor. If there's a gross difference, then I'll at least call it to the AC's attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 " I still don't believe our responsibility goes beyond providing an accurate source of time code that matches our recorder. " true, unless the production rents additional equipment from us (TC slates or boxes), in which case we are responsible for them and their proper operation, though still not the actual interface to a camera and or recorder... That said, I'll keep an eye on TC displays... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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