Srgtfury Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 No Political responses, please, as this is a dispassionate lead to a topic that occurred to Fury, when this emailed link was stumbled on... http://itmakessenseb...-during-debate/ Is it possible to so deftly conceal a speaker, in or near the; conchal bowl, antihelix, or even the tragus (slightly increasing the tragus' size), such that talent can simply hear and parrot their lines, perhaps 0.5 sec. or whatever, after hearing the feed, whilst avoiding intentional recording of the live performance? The director could, therefore, essentially time cue the lines. Running lines would be minimized. Of course, the talent's interpretation and ego would necessitate consideration, in that regard. For big budget productions, seems this would save on net budget, anyway, and, by extension, has probably been done. Anyone have experiences, with this type of application. If so, please post. Thank you very much Fury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Just looks like a hard shadow to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacefivesound Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Looks to me like nothing more than a crappy photoshop job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriskellett Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Seem to be brought up every election, http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/photos/earpiece.asp http://www.salon.com/2004/10/09/bulge/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrider Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Actors have used wireless earwigs to recite long speeches on camera. It is a true skill to be able to recite dialog a split second after you hear it. The technology is easily obtainable and affordable. I have heard that actor Johnny Depp likes to use one to take private direction during a take and uses it to listen to music between takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Bush and now Obama. Maybe Romney is next when he will is president. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrider Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 The articles mention a receiver placed between the shoulder blades. This is not a place I would attempt to conceal a receiver, especially under a well tailored suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 " Johnny Depp likes to use one " to be fed lines... it seems to be a method thing, as he got the bug from Marlon Brando... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Tuzo Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 I have heard that actor Johnny Depp likes to use one to take private direction during a take and uses it to listen to music between takes. JD actually uses an earwig to listen to music DURING takes. He uses the music to inspire his performance. We also employed this a bit for Clive Owen on a film I recently finished. The director had actually asked in pre-pro if we could have an extra on standby for the dolly grip in order to inspire his dolly moves. It was fun working with a director who was SOOO into music, and his sound in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atheisticmystic Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 The director had actually asked in pre-pro if we could have an extra on standby for the dolly grip in order to inspire his dolly moves. What??? I don't get it brother Wyatt. Best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lightstone, CAS Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 I have worked on two films with Marlon Brando ("The Freshman", "Don Juan DeMarco"). Marlon's earwigs were used for prompts on when to pick up a prop and other action, rarely for line cues. Johnny Depp copied the ear wig idea after working with Brando on "Don Juan DeMarco". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 ...as this is a dispassionate lead to a topic that occurred to Fury... Bullshit. As in your statement is full of. Aside from the fact that this nonsensical website is accusing the President of breaking the agreed upon rules of the debate, there's no earpiece in that picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewFreedAudio Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 That is a lovely shadow in the picture! Probably one of the nicest internal upper ear shadows I've seen in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Anderson Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 What??? I don't get it brother Wyatt. Best If we hand out ear wigs to our actors for scenes with live singing, we sometimes also give Comteks tuned to the same channel to the Camera Operators and Dolly Grips for the same reason - so everyone keeps the same rhythms and feeling of the song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srgtfury Posted November 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Now, now, Oms, Is that a goldendoodle, as ur avatar? Maybe U need to check ur kicks...not el toro ur apparently smelling. Moderator, please reprimand this poster. Since sound production is a new field for Fury, the purposeful, somewhat astounding and appropriate responses are much appreciated. The general public, likely has no idea, of what has been reported above, by responsive posters. Not to obviate the proclivity that some devotees, of a given talent might have to label such revelations, as having a taurine twist. Thank you very much Fury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atheisticmystic Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 ...for the same reason - so everyone keeps the same rhythms and feeling of the song. Copy that. Thanks Joshua. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewFreedAudio Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Now, now, Oms, Is that a goldendoodle, as ur avatar? Maybe U need to check ur kicks...not el toro ur apparently smelling. Moderator, please reprimand this poster. Since sound production is a new field for Fury, the purposeful, somewhat astounding and appropriate responses are much appreciated. The general public, likely has no idea, of what has been reported above, by responsive posters. Not to obviate the proclivity that some devotees, of a given talent might have to label such revelations, as having a taurine twist. Thank you very much Fury What the f#ck are you talking about? And why do you refer to yourself in the third person? Do you realize no one can take you seriously? Referring to myself in the first person, Matthew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Flaitz Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 What the f#ck are you talking about? And why do you refer to yourself in the third person? Do you realize no one can take you seriously? Referring to myself in the first person, Matthew He surfaced, I believe, in a rather scandalous Nomad transaction thread a while back and has continued to linger as a sporadically amusing nuisance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Tuzo Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 If we hand out ear wigs to our actors for scenes with live singing, we sometimes also give Comteks tuned to the same channel to the Camera Operators and Dolly Grips for the same reason - so everyone keeps the same rhythms and feeling of the song. To take it a step further: On this particular film, we would sometimes hand out headsets with music even if there was to be none in the scene. Sometimes the director felt that a particular song told the emotion he was looking to convey in the scene (granted, we wouldn't do this every pass), and wanted to try to capture that in the performance of either the actors or cam/grip. That was a new one for me. I learned that the French seem to have a respect for sound that some have lost stateside. It's tough to articulate, but there was just a greater level of respect... a greater appreciation for our contribution to the project. It was a good feeling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 This is 100% political. Chris is right that it comes up regularly, though the anti-Obama Republin thing now seems to be that he is only a great speaker when he has a teleprompter (decide for yourself after the debates and all the Sandy speaking he has been doing). The funny thing is that people in our line of work would know how to hide this stuff, and we know that we could go to B&H (let alone a usual suspect) and get an earwig that hides in the ear, not glued there. I got a call a few times asking if I would feed a "known" actor lines from another room. The whole thing was to be done secretly, the person calling didn't want anyone else on set to know that was happening (even the director). They implied it was normal for this actor to do it, and if they really can (or think they can) hide an earwig from the other actors and crew, then I think the POTUS can get tech at least that sneaky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 " Sometimes the director felt that a particular song told the emotion he was looking to convey in the scene " was this person actually credible? Remember, back before movies could talk, musicians playing mood music on the set (during the takes!) was pretty common... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Tuzo Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 " Sometimes the director felt that a particular song told the emotion he was looking to convey in the scene " was this person actually credible? Remember, back before movies could talk, musicians playing mood music on the set (during the takes!) was pretty common... I guess I would say so. He is a big actor in France. I think this was his second directing gig. Pretty good cast: James Caan, Billy Cruddup, Clive Owen, Marion Cotillard, and many other "names". Why would you question ones credibility, only to follow with "many did this in the past"? We had the technology, and the man power and he wanted to employ it. It was a fun experiment... Whether it worked or not... Well, I guess we'll see once the film is finished being cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Sanchez Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 I have used Phonak Invisity in a few films, they are great for playback when you want to record the singing. And you have a base transmitter so no pack (or implant on the shoulders!). On one occasion, one actor stepped on it and it broke in half. When i got it, i realised that if you really needed, you could open it and loose the case and would fit in your ear without been visible! So I wouldn't be surprised if someone like the president would wear one just in case. As for the photo, can they get a lower resolution one? maybe we can see the real location of area 51 on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriskellett Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 I guess I would say so. He is a big actor in France. I think this was his second directing gig. Pretty good cast: James Caan, Billy Cruddup, Clive Owen, Marion Cotillard, and many other "names". Why would you question ones credibility, only to follow with "many did this in the past"? We had the technology, and the man power and he wanted to employ it. It was a fun experiment... Whether it worked or not... Well, I guess we'll see once the film is finished being cut. Don't sweat it Wyatt, SMM does it for the attention only, check out his IMDB credits and then decided if you are worried about his opinion on this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Tuzo Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Don't sweat it Wyatt, SMM does it for the attention only, check out his IMDB credits and then decided if you are worried about his opinion on this stuff. Thanks Chris. I'm actually well familiar with the senator. I would actually say that we more or less get along just fine. Sometimes I just think its fun to poke back. Anyway. What's all this I hear about an election? ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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