Kemalettin Sert Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 first hello everyone just come here to get some recommendations about little sound setup. i have Epic/Scarlet/Dslr cameras and just want to record sound thats it.max budget is 500$ and Tascam DR 100 looks good choice for compact recorder. what do you guys suggest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Tascam DR-40 for around $200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Yeremian Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 If you could afford those cameras at least spring for a Sound Devices 702, you can find them pretty cheap used and will be much, much better than a little handheld recorder. I'm also guessing in your $500 budget does not account for buying microphones etc...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Good productions maintain an equal balance of all elements from scripting, to production design, to acting, to yes, even sound. Your productions will be out of balance. You'll be using 4k+ cameras w/VHS sound. For low budget DSLR productions, an under $500 recorder is not a bad choice. For fully professional productions, you want a fully-equipped sound professional. They will likely have as much invested in their sound package as you do in the camera package you mentioned. Balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemalettin Sert Posted November 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 If you could afford those cameras at least spring for a Sound Devices 702, you can find them pretty cheap used and will be much, much better than a little handheld recorder. I'm also guessing in your $500 budget does not account for buying microphones etc...? its for best setup for 500$ i ll get DR40 +good shotgun mic if its enough.Just dont want to end up buying highend of audio tech side because its endless. Good productions maintain an equal balance of all elements from scripting, to production design, to acting, to yes, even sound. Your productions will be out of balance. You'll be using 4k+ cameras w/VHS sound. For low budget DSLR productions, an under $500 recorder is not a bad choice. For fully professional productions, you want a fully-equipped sound professional. They will likely have as much invested in their sound package as you do in the camera package you mentioned. Balance. i rent these cameras investing $3-5K on these equipment not sounds good for me.Sometimes i shoot for myself and that time i need audio.On sets of course its Sound guy's job.All i want is usable sound when i shoot for fun outside of work.There is no onboard mic on Red cameras and 5d mark III mic is worse than iphone sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrd456 Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 The DR100 actually works pretty well.It has a rotary pot so you can control the levels accurately,unlike the DR40.It is best used with the Portamount which is available at location sound in N. Hollywood. portamount-COLOR-final-package-2.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 i rent these cameras investing $3-5K on these equipment not sounds good for me.Sometimes i shoot for myself and that time i need audio.On sets of course its Sound guy's job.All i want is usable sound when i shoot for fun outside of work.There is no onboard mic on Red cameras and 5d mark III mic is worse than iphone sound. Gotcha. My best advice would be to contact one of the pro audio dealers such as TREW AUDIO (LA, Nashville), LOCATION SOUND CORP. (LA), GOTHAM SOUND (NY), PRO-SOUND (NY, New Orleans), ETC., and tell them what your needs are. Since there's more involved than just a recorder and a mic (wind protection, for instance), they can help set you up with a package that would meet your needs. While they deal a lot with high end gear, they also can help even at lower budgets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicole Hankerson Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Tascam DR40 will allow room in the budget for a mic at least. I own a dr40 and it works amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesper Magnusson Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 So, given those conditions, you want something that will act as an on-cam mic? In that case, for the price I concur with the advice of DR-40 and a shotgun (for instance the Rode videomic or NTG-1). The DR-40 can record 4 tracks, so both it's internal stereo mics for something close to the mics in a camera, and one or two connected mounted mics. I think it would be the best approach for this style and cost. Follow John Blankenship's advice though and contact an audio dealer - they deal with this kind of thing regularly and know what works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Reineke Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 The pre-amps on most of the budget recorders just plain suck, but with a good mic and preamp front-end, feeding line-level signal, they can sound very good, at least that's my experience with the DR-40, the DR100mkII would be as good, and also has S/PDIF inputs if that's an option. NOTE: Beware of the Zoom H4N, as it's line-level input configuration is compromised to accept instrument level, and will distort if fed a +4dB (nominal) input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VM Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 i have Epic/Scarlet/Dslr cameras and just want to record sound thats it.max budget is 500$ You should see Marc Wielage's video... http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6807847/sound-mixer-hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
api Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Try not to get fixated on a specific budget until you have figured out what exactly is "usable sound" for your needs. A Sound Devices MixPre-D field mixer might be a more pragmatic initial investment than a hand held recorder even though it is a bit more expensive than $500. The onboard audio on RED cameras and DSLRs can be quite surprisingly good if a proper preamp is used with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemalettin Sert Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Thank you so much for all recommendations but guys im not gonna shoot feature film just simple audio for vimeo videos probably i pull trigger on Tascam DR 100 MKII since its 270$..so next question is which shotgun mic to get for 250$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Reineke Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 probably i pull trigger on Tascam DR 100 MKII since its 270$..so next question is which shotgun mic to get for 250$ -- but your audio skill levels are important no matter what gear one uses. The preamps are still garbage regardless of the mic, but a good mic helps.. good luck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 " .but your audio skill levels are important no matter what gear one uses. " aka <tiger> I generally prefer the TASCAM options over the comparably priced Zoom options. Audio Technica has some good options in low end shotguns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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