jason porter Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Even if it was $3000/month it is still completely ridiculous. Save the whales, abuse the humans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 If the rate is $3000 for 4 months no one get the job. Seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Steigerwald Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Depending which boat you end up on, that's 3-4 months at sea. No ports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 It is not like the mixer would even really be contributing to a non-profit / conscientious effort... this is TV, designed for entertainment. Half of the people watching could ultimately probably care less about the plight of the whales. The production company should be heavily scrutinized for their activities, even though performing work in international waters for the most part, and if not simply from a legal standpoint, from a producer / client standpoint, for promoting work of such shoddy nature by not providing the minimum needs to get qualified crew members to man the critical billets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atheisticmystic Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 ...qualified crew members to man the critical billets. Damn Tom, at some point in the future I want to buy you a beverage of your choice. Sabers ready sir! C Trp. 3/7 Cavalry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Flaitz Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 If the rate is $3000 for 4 months no one get the job. Seriously. $3000 wouldn't even pay my rent for 4 months... must be a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Damn Tom, at some point in the future I want to buy you a beverage of your choice. Sabers ready sir! C Trp. 3/7 Cavalry That would be Guiness, but I refuse to let you pay any more after like the 6th or 10th one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 $3000 wouldn't even pay my rent for 4 months... must be a joke. I know Jesse. $3000 for 4 months is nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Mills Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 of course the L&D on the show will exceed $3k.. I suggest the show just buy a gross of the cheapest on ebay no name shotgun mics and clamp a fresh one on each camera as they die from salt water exposure.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 of course the L&D on the show will exceed $3k.. I suggest the show just buy a gross of the cheapest on ebay no name shotgun mics and clamp a fresh one on each camera as they die from salt water exposure.. I think it's all provided gear, and *probably* a show that budgets for all of it being destroyed. There is good gear that lasts longer in extreme conditions. If the supe has experience in salt water shows, they probably have figured out how to make the gear last the run of the show. It's not like you can FedEx in replacement gear if gear goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 I would love to work on this show, but I have some other obligations that mean I can't be gone that long. I'm also not in a position to put my life in storage and find a sublet, because that rate isn't going to cover my bills while I am gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 The best part of whale wars is this send up on South Park. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS1YexdmDqc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gilbert Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 That can't be the real rate... For all the stress, dangerous conditions, hours, gear wear etc. that's not even a good rate for a week! It shouldn't be, but it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 <That would be Guiness, but I refuse to let you pay any more after like the 6th or 10th one. > Tom Visser, i'll get the ones after the 6th or the 10th man. You hit that nail on the head like an experienced lumberjack splitting a log in two with one stroke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 " hope the person they eventually hire will demand more money or fail miserably. " that would have to mean 'die on the job', as they really are only looking for a warm breathing body, and if it isn't warm, they could overlook that part! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 That can't be the real rate... For all the stress, dangerous conditions, hours, gear wear etc. that's not even a good rate for a week! I was thinking, even $3K a week would be a stretch, especially given the very dangerous shooting conditions. And (like on Most Dangerous Catch) all the gear would probably have to be thrown out at the end because of exposure to salt water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Burstein Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Would this also be a 7 day/week gig? $400+ change/day going all in. Someone did mention it was their equipment right...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewFreedAudio Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Would this also be a 7 day/week gig? $400+ change/day going all in. Someone did mention it was their equipment right...? Gear is provided. Read the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Complete guess, but you probably have a ton of down time. 4 months on location for 8-12 hour long episodes. Also remember that 3 ships (or 3 locations) contribute to those episodes. I've worked on doc shows (Animal Cops) where we shoot a year (11 months) to get 15 hour long episodes, BUT we are working 5 day weeks and generally working 10 hour days (unless something crazy happens). In that sense, when you consider the whole show is about chasing whalers, there is probably a lot of idle time. You have 4 months to do OTFs and background on some of the key players. That said, when they are in close pursuit, it's probably long shifts and a lot of adrenaline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Steigerwald Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Complete guess, but you probably have a ton of down time. At sea, in the Antarctic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 At sea, in the Antarctic. Ah, but there are the mermaids... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted November 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Ah, but there are the mermaids... After weeks at sea, seeing nothing but open water, while tracking whaling ships you might never catch, I expect you're seeing mermaids and all kinds of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I was thinking you could do a lot of reading, but mermaid watching is probably a valid way to spend the day! You may also get to see some whales. Heck people PAY to go on whale watching tours! I hear the ship is vegan, so no Subway tunas!!! I'm sure they will find somebody to do it. It sounds like an adventure, and I bet a lot of people justify it by believing in the cause. I realize there is a separation of the Production company and Animal Planet from the Sea Shepherds, you are working on a show that is arguably an infomercial for what they do. I bet most Americans never heard of them before the show, even ones that generally support what they are doing. I sort of felt like that working on some projects (doc series based at a non-profit). At the end of the day I was getting paid, and felt like we were telling the story of a good organization from a side that the public doesn't see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 " I hear the ship is vegan, " Sea-cucumbers ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blas Kisic Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 I was approached a couple of years ago to do a travel show. It was great because, usually, it was six weeks of traveling to exotic locales, but the hours were long, the work was hectic (and probably sloppy, by definition) and the pay was $500 PER EPISODE. Yes, per episode - so, basically, I would be working for something like $167 a day. When I mentioned that was too low -especially considering I'd be unavailable from other income possibilites for six weeks- the producer explained that most soundies who took the job did so as a "working vacation." Nuts. BK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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