Winter Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Hi! I'm going to upgrade my Senn EW g3 and I'm a little bit confused about the next purchase... Within my budget I doubt between the new Audio Ltd. EN2 series http://www.audioltd.com/eng/ and some used Lectrosonics like the old UCR210D receiver with the UM200C transmitter. Both systems are more or less in the same price range. Since I work 99,99% of the times in docos and reality I REALLY like the scan function in those EN2 but I'm scared they're not good enough to be a real upgrade from my g3's. I don't know also if they're powereful enoug when it comes to transmission and avoiding drop outs (they will be better than g3 i guess, but I've did'nt try by myself). The Lectros have proven to be very nice, but I'm scared about the mechanical freq. setting. Any opinions? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Bacon AMPS Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 As a British based recordist I suppose I should be championing the Audio En2's. While they are an improvement on the G3's it isn't a dramatic improvement. There is no need to be scared of the hex based frequency setting feature of the Lectro's but understand your reluctance compared to the visual display and scanning feature of the En2's. I have a few questions... do you regularly work with other recordists and if so, what do they have? Do you need to think about remaining compatible wit them? Finally, could you continue to save and make more of an upgrade in a few months time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Bacon AMPS Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 For used gear, try the usual suspects of Gotham and Trew etc. but also remember there is also bblist.com. I have successfully made over a dozen purchases in the last two years from Timecode gear to Wireless Radiomic Kits. Just a thought if you still keen to buy used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramallo Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 For me, my UM200/UCR200 was a real upgrade over the G3, much better sound and much better RF (My only drawback is the high consumption on the UCR). The mechanical freq change isn't a problem. I'm using the RF Explorer for scan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted December 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 As a British based recordist I suppose I should be championing the Audio En2's. While they are an improvement on the G3's it isn't a dramatic improvement. There is no need to be scared of the hex based frequency setting feature of the Lectro's but understand your reluctance compared to the visual display and scanning feature of the En2's. I have a few questions... do you regularly work with other recordists and if so, what do they have? Do you need to think about remaining compatible wit them? Finally, could you continue to save and make more of an upgrade in a few months time? Well, if the EN2 are'nt a HUGE upgrade...I will probably go for used Lectros...I do know people using Lectros but low-budget recordist are constantly on G3's or G2's here in my country. But man, you CAN'T rely on those wireless if you go out for serious work... I'll take a look at bblist.com, thanks for the tip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted December 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 For me, my UM200/UCR200 was a real upgrade over the G3, much better sound and much better RF (My only drawback is the high consumption on the UCR). The mechanical freq change isn't a problem. I'm using the RF Explorer for scan Thanks for your feedback, it seems that Lectro is the way to go for me...I did'nt knew the RF Explorer! Very cool unit!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Winter , Don't rely on just one recommendation for the good and bad in radio mics. Following the UK demise of channel 69 to 38 I replaced my Audio 2020's with the dual receiver EN2's and after 3 biggish feature films I have no complaint about their performance. Malcolm Davies. A.m.p.s. (Production Sound Mixer.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gilbert Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 One thing to remember is, when buying Lectrosonics, even used models, you're buying into the best service and back up I've experienced. That for me is just as important as day to day performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted December 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Winter , Don't rely on just one recommendation for the good and bad in radio mics. Following the UK demise of channel 69 to 38 I replaced my Audio 2020's with the dual receiver EN2's and after 3 biggish feature films I have no complaint about their performance. Malcolm Davies. A.m.p.s. (Production Sound Mixer.) Thanks for your feedback Malcom! It's the first first-hand very positive feedback about the EN2. Could you tell me something more about their performance in comparison with your old 2020's? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted December 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 One thing to remember is, when buying Lectrosonics, even used models, you're buying into the best service and back up I've experienced. That for me is just as important as day to day performance. True, this is very important! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramallo Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 True, this is very important! The Lectrosonic's technical service in Spain is this company http://www.coelsl.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Bacon AMPS Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Winter , Don't rely on just one recommendation for the good and bad in radio mics. Hi Malcolm, what you said is very true. As we have seen on this forum, we all have different opinions of what makes a good wireless microphone setup... even down to specific combinations of lav mic used. I perhaps should have quantified my comments. Following the UK demise of channel 69 to 38 I replaced my Audio 2020's with the dual receiver EN2's and after 3 biggish feature films I have no complaint about their performance. Winter, I can only speak of my personal experiences of using En2's (so please do take others onboard and don't take mine as gospel!). Myself nd others expressed our opinions of the En2's in this thread Whatever you decide, I strongly recommend you listen to as many differnet wireless units as you can before spending your hard earned money. You'll know the one for you when you listen to them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gilbert Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 I don't think you'll find a massive difference in 'sound' from the various option at this level, what might be worth focussing on is ease of use, build quality, access to support, oh and price of course... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted December 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Winter, I can only speak of my personal experiences of using En2's (so please do take others onboard and don't take mine as gospel!). Myself nd others expressed our opinions of the En2's in this thread Thanks for posting the link! Have you used the diversity RX or the other one? I do work on run'n'gun shootings 99% of the time, RF immunity and range are the main thing for me, they come first than sound. I need to not lose signal when I'm shooting in public square full of iphones... Soundwise I could be happy with the G3's, really. Whatever you decide, I strongly recommend you listen to as many differnet wireless units as you can before spending your hard earned money. You'll know the one for you when you listen to them! Good advice, not easy here in Spain, but it would be a lot easier to choose if I could listen to them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephensharrod Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Lectos all the way, good for narrative/commercial work. Good range, easy scanning option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 How about the Sennheiser 2000 series as an upgrade path? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted December 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 How about the Sennheiser 2000 series as an upgrade path? I've no feedback about them. Do you use them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 I've no feedback about them. Do you use them? Not yet but I'd consider them as a possible better-than-G3-cheaper-than-Lectro solution. More research to be done of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesper Magnusson Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 also remember there is also bblist.com Thank you for this - I didn't know about it. I often by used but the market in sweden is really small, so this is great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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