Eric Toline Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 There's really no point discussing it really. Some people pick dead children and planes getting blown up, over gun control and patdowns/body scanners. Just so they can pretend they are true patriots, standing up for their rights. Body counts be damned. While they label those asking for common sense to be used, as people not deserving their liberty. Pretending to be a Patriot are your words to try to strengthen your position and has nothing to do with standing up for your Constitutional rights and defending them against those who would try to take them away. It's part of being an American. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henchman Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Pretending to be a Patriot are your words to try to strengthen your position and has nothing to do with standing up for your Constitutional rights and defending them against those who would try to take them away. It's part of being an American. Eric Warping what was written in the constitution to fit a specific agenda has nothing to do with standing up for your rights. The religious right does the same with the bible. Like I said. . Some people pick dead children and planes getting blown up, over gun control and patdowns/body scanners. Body counts be damned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwstudios Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Warping what was written in the constitution to fit a specific agenda So, who is the one doing the warping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 LOS ANGELES -- Long lines of cars and people formed Wednesday to take advantage of a guns-for-groceries exchange program that was moved up in the wake of the Connecticut school shooting. Police officers filled bins with more than 1,500 rifles and handguns outside the Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena and the Van Nuys Masonic Temple, according to the Los Angeles Daily News. Officials were mindful of both the massacre of students and teachers in Newtown, Conn., and a gunman's ambush that killed two firefighters in Webster, N.Y. "All of us are still mourning the tragedy at Newtown, Conn.," said Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa. "So many young innocent children were mass-murdered in the way that they were, and now the assassination of two firefighters ... just breaks the heart of so many of us, particularly in this holiday season." The anonymous buyback program allowed weapons to be turned in with no questions asked. Handguns, rifles and shotguns could be exchanged for $100 Ralphs grocery store gift cards. Assault weapons earned a $200 card. The program, designed to get guns off the streets, usually is held in May. Villaraigosa decided to do it now in the wake of the Dec. 14 shooting rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary School. The last buyback netted about 1,700 guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Perhaps some "minds" are being changed? LOS ANGELES -- Long lines of cars and people formed Wednesday to take advantage of a guns-for-groceries exchange program that was moved up in the wake of the Connecticut school shooting. Police officers filled bins with more than 1,500 rifles and handguns outside the Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena and the Van Nuys Masonic Temple, according to the Los Angeles Daily News. Officials were mindful of both the massacre of students and teachers in Newtown, Conn., and a gunman's ambush that killed two firefighters in Webster, N.Y. "All of us are still mourning the tragedy at Newtown, Conn.," said Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa. "So many young innocent children were mass-murdered in the way that they were, and now the assassination of two firefighters ... just breaks the heart of so many of us, particularly in this holiday season." The anonymous buyback program allowed weapons to be turned in with no questions asked. Handguns, rifles and shotguns could be exchanged for $100 Ralphs grocery store gift cards. Assault weapons earned a $200 card. The program, designed to get guns off the streets, usually is held in May. Villaraigosa decided to do it now in the wake of the Dec. 14 shooting rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary School. The last buyback netted about 1,700 guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhobbit Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 It would make weapons that were designed to win wars illegal. A lot of guns are the result of military design and the military uses a deer rifle design as a sniper rifle. If the semi-automatic rifle is to be banned, then they should all be banned, no? Indeed. It was also designed to kill/wound a Soviet/NVA soldier and allow US troops to carry more ammo. No place for it in the hands of a civilian outside of a firing range. If it is a banned weapon, why would it be allowed at a firing range? There are tons of semi-auto hunting rifles that use rotary and/or can use 10 round or less straight magazines. What is to stop the purchase of multiple 10 round magazines. They change out in seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blas Kisic Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Stopped reading right at the beginning where it said being a gun loving leftist. Well, that'll do wonders for your ability to process new information… BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) " Who could easily buy weapons at gun shows. " but it would be against the law! (as if he cared about laws)... he could easily buy one on the street, probably easier, though perhaps more costly...or not... " Anything with an AR15 or AK receiver " way too easy to circumvent, " Any semi-automatic rifle that fires an intermediate or heavier cartridge and is magazine fed more than 10 rounds " still easy to circumvent... " that was made for a soldier to kill/wound another soldier " those are assault weapons, and they are fully automatic. semi-automatic versions are not actually assault weapons! " And who gets full body searches is determined by racial profiling. " doh! and it works! but... " The TSA's directive seems to be it is better to search everyone rather than offend just one person who fits the terrorists profile. " Edited December 28, 2012 by studiomprd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Without the second amendment California and Texas might still be part of Mexico. The south could be part of France. Native Americans could still control most of the country. That's just plain silly. Unless.... I like California so we should keep that but Texas a part of Mexico? The South a series of French departments? That wouldn't be too bad... Native Americans would have probably have lost out anyway but they'd still be casino owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 How do you to begin to make an assumption of where America might be now without the second amendment? Maybe he's been reading one of Newt Gingrich's awful "alternative history" novels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 It's not just the south that has welfare states. California is a welfare state. Au contraire mon ami, aside from Texas and Arkansas every state in the south receives more money from the Federal government than they contribute in taxes. California, on the other hand, pays more to the Federal government than it receives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Voting for the lesser of two evils seems to be the norm these days. Historically that's usually been the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Pretending to be a Patriot are your words to try to strengthen your position and has nothing to do with standing up for your Constitutional rights and defending them against those who would try to take them away. It's part of being an American. It's also an American's responsibility to recognize when laws are improper and unjust and change them. You know, like that whole slavery thing. There's an excellent case for amending the 2nd Amendment to bring it in line with real life in the modern world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 So, who is the one doing the warping? Picard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwstudios Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 It's also an American's responsibility to recognize when laws are improper and unjust and change them. Feinstein's proposed legislation. http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwstudios Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Picard? No, Kirk and Scotty started it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfisk Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Nope. California supports the other southern states via our federal tax dollars. Certainly not the other way around. I would be happy to give them what they want, and that is to secede. You really should read this: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304537904577277242682364690.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfisk Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Au contraire mon ami, ahem.....buy me a drink first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfisk Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 No, Kirk and Scotty started it all Nope...it was that dude from Star Trek: First Contact. Zephram Cochran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigzarkos Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Common sense?.... The problem is, his way of thinking IS common... but lacking in any sense. correct words, incorrect usage. Merry Xmas.... Santa brought me a new Glock 26... Thank you Santa!!!! Baby Glock-- do you carry CC? I'm looking at this for my wife as a CC gun, but need to have her shoot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymz Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 " Anything with an AR15/AK receiver " way too easy to circumvent, and what about Kalashnikov's ? Re-read what I said, anything with an AR15/AK receiver. On top of the other criteria I listed, I was quite specific. " Any semi-automatic rifle that fires an intermediate or heavier cartridge and is magazine fed more than 10 rounds " still easy to circumvent... Elaborate then. If it is, then apply more rules until it isn't. " that was made for a soldier to kill/wound another soldier " those are assault weapons, and they are fully automatic. semi-automatic versions are not actually assault weapons! This absolute bollucks is what was wrong with the last ban. Semi-automatic versions use the same receiver and cartridge. They're a neutered version of a weapon designed to kill/wound soldiers on the field of battle and are a pathetic attempt to legitimize them being in the hands of a civilian (despite them still maintaining ruthless amounts of killing efficiency). It's also an American's responsibility to recognize when laws are improper and unjust and change them. You know, like that whole slavery thing. There's an excellent case for amending the 2nd Amendment to bring it in line with real life in the modern world. And until this is realized by the vast majority of Americans, the problem will persist. If it is a banned weapon, why would it be allowed at a firing range? I haven't suggested banning them that way, read what I posted a few pages back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 No, Kirk and Scotty started it all Nope. Zefram Cochrane. On earth that is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 You really should read this: http://online.wsj.co...2682364690.html You should read this: http://www.amazon.com/Better-Off-Without-Manifesto-Secession/dp/1451616651/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1356644644&sr=1-1&keywords=better+off+without+%27em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Feinstein's proposed legislation. http://www.feinstein...assault-weapons A decent start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 ahem.....buy me a drink first? Mais oui mon petite chou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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