bleueblancrouge Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 the one place that thunderbolt is very usefull and apple hasn't inplemented it is in the mac pro towers. makes no sense to me whatsoever. the pros that need high data rate movment are not getting it. post sound and picture houses. they don't run 200+ tracks of sound on feature film mix with a macbook, imac or mac mini so why the hell do they only get them? P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 New Mac Pros are due in May 2013 or thereabouts: http://www.macrumors.com/2013/02/06/apple-tells-reseller-that-the-new-mac-pro-is-arriving-in-spring-2013/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 The MBW podcast pointed out that Tim Cook said "we will have something for the pro users", but didn't specifically say a revision to the Mac Pro. That can spark all kinds of speculation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 The MBW podcast pointed out that Tim Cook said "we will have something for the pro users", but didn't specifically say a revision to the Mac Pro. That can spark all kinds of speculation! iPad pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petros Kolyvas Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 If I may contribute to this discussion a little bit, it seems as though one often skipped over item is reliability. Run a search for issues related to USB 3 (super speed) device compatibilty and I think you'll find a large number of threads across a variety of products and systems, I bought the very same superspeed hub pictured in a post here for use with a Retina MacBook Pro and it didn't work. I picked up at dual-disk USB 3 dock for another computer and it can't maintain a connection over USB3 (the whole device drops out consistently as soon as you try to read or write to it.) Conversely, I've had no trouble with any of my Thunderbolt peripherals, all of which are storage. With USB 3 in more cases one really needs to read the compatibility list, which is a bit old-hat when it comes to consumer electronics and counter the the point of a standardized interface and connection. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, but it seems that running a 5Gb signal over cheap cables and cheap electronics is harder than the manufacturers imagined and continues to pose problems. I've been as surprised with Thunderbolt as I have been disappointed with SuperSpeed USB. But it's just like, my experience, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwstudios Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 IRun a search for issues related to USB 3 (super speed) device compatibilty and I think you'll find a large number of threads across a variety of products and systems, Considering there is likely a thousand USB3 peripherals out there for every Thundebolt device statistics would favor that. Had no problems personally with USB3. YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petros Kolyvas Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Considering there is likely a thousand USB3 peripherals out there for every Thundebolt device statistics would favor that. Had no problems personally with USB3. YMMV. A fair point, but having 4 USB3 purchases and finding that two didn't work as advertised certainly indicated (to me at least) there was an issue. I do think the more stringent requirements for Thunderbolt and Intel's seeming strict oversight probably both help (comparability-wise) and hurt (adoption-wise.) The whole "cable" cost fiasco at launch didn't help Thunderbolt either, but some recent purchases have seen the manufacturer including the cable now, which is the way it should be really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemmerlinj Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 UA has a card for the Apollo interface for Thunderbolt. They advertised this before the interface ever came out and TB on Mac devices had only been out for less than a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickreich Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 I'm sitting here at the moment watching a Mac Mini Server record 170 tracks of 24bit/48K from 3 MADI Streams. An RME triple MADI card is the interface - in a Sonnet Thunderbolt PCIe chassis. Recording drive is a SINGLE LaCie Rugged 256GB SSD Thunderbolt drive. Recording software is Reaper (still trying to get BoomRecorder to play nice with the RME card), and all 170 tracks are getting sent back to the MADI outputs. I'm soak-testing a new rig before a concert recording in a week - it's been recording continuously for an hour as I write. I for one am pretty happy Apple adopted Thunderbolt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Nobody talks about esata. :.. I have been using it for a while and am very happy with it's performance. Almost every motherboard has it or if it doesn't you can add on a simple cheap adapter to a onboard sata port. I don't see a need for faster data rates unless you are using a SSD raid. Standard 3.5 drives in a raid will give you approximately 180MB/s. Esata will pull 200MB/s any day. The only reason for a thunderbolt I see is on laptops. For the last 2 years PC manufacturers stopped selling esata laptops. Certainly very disappointing..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickreich Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 I buy a lot of external drives for client delivery. Last year most of them were multi-interface with FW800, USB2 and eSATA. This year's crop from the same manufacturers all seem to be FW (or rarely, Thunderbolt) and USB3 and have dropped the eSATA socket. Must have been a lack of demand. Being mainly a Mac user, I had little use for it - oddly enough Thunderbolt to eSATA hubs are starting to appear so now I could! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antoinefromparis Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 When the new mac pro comes out might be the time that thunderbolt really takes off since right now the mac pro doesnt have any thunderbolt port Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Uh... the new Mac Pro has six Thunderbolt connectors: I suspect USB3 may be fast enough for most users, even those doing HD editing and color correction. Note that as far as I know, no drive company is making native Thunderbolt drives -- they all use a bridge board going from SATA to Thunderbolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Wynne Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Uh... the new Mac Pro has six Thunderbolt connectors: +1 I will use my 6 core forever now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Uh... the new Mac Pro has six Thunderbolt connectors: I believe Antoine means that the current Mac Pro model has none, but that the upcoming one will have (six as you mention), and probably create a boom in thurnderbolt usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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