Ianellemo Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 I'm in my 4th year as a Location Sound Recordist, slowly making my way up the trail, acquiring gear as I can, gig after gig, always updating my bag. I know what I need, it's simply a matter of money and time. I'm looking into purchasing the MKH 8040 for interior recording situations. However, i'm also contemplating the Neumann KM 184 MT. Any suggestions and opinions out there would be very appreciated!!
gpiegari Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 I am very pleased with my MKH-8040 and 8050's. If Sennheiser would ever release an 8030, I would be ecstatic. Glen
pkautzsch Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 I'm very pleased with my Neumanns (184 and 185 as well as KMR81). Others prefer MKH 40 or 50, others Schoeps. It's more a question of getting used to a certain mic than of which is "better" in absolute terms. About the 80x0 series, there were a few reports about crackling issues on the web. Don't remember if this has been solved, but a search will help.
sonicparticle Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 Pardon my ignorance, but for all of you that have used the MKH8050, is there a direct comparison between the MKH50 and the MKH8050 or are we talking here about a totally different microphones here? Meaning, is the MKH8050 a "better" MKH50 or a different mic with distinctively different characteristics?
gpiegari Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 I'd say they sound rather similar. They use the same RF condenser technology and I have found my 8050 to tolerate the same weather extremes that my 50 always performed flawlessly in. The extremely compact form factor of the 8050 is the real difference. The 50 has a low-cut and pad built in. These features are added to the 8000 series with the rather expensive inline addition of the MZF module. Glen
Ianellemo Posted February 5, 2013 Author Report Posted February 5, 2013 Thank you all for your responses. How about a direct comparison between the 8050 and 8040. Does anyone have this experience? I'm talking for my sole purpose on recording clean, interior dialogue. Also, I'm wanting to sell some gear on here but it won't let me start a new topic of discussion. Is that because I am an amateur member on this site? If someone could help me out with this it would be much appreciated. Cheers
Chris Woodcock Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 Thank you all for your responses. How about a direct comparison between the 8050 and 8040. Does anyone have this experience? I'm talking for my sole purpose on recording clean, interior dialogue. Also, I'm wanting to sell some gear on here but it won't let me start a new topic of discussion. Is that because I am an amateur member on this site? If someone could help me out with this it would be much appreciated. Cheers You need a certain amount of posts before you can make a new thread
Ianellemo Posted February 5, 2013 Author Report Posted February 5, 2013 I could spend days, months, reading all the info on here, so great! Merci merci merci!! as we say in my province's native tongue.
RPSharman Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 I bought an 8040 - didn't like it at all - I use an MKH50 almost exclusively. I thought about trading one of my 3 MKH50s for an 8050, but when I found someone willing to trade, we discussed both mikes, and he convinced me to not do the trade. He preferred the MKH50. If the small form factor is useful, then I suppose it's worth it. I bought the 8040 as a plant, but found it collected too much kick from the surroundings, and usually sounded weird. Robert
Ianellemo Posted February 5, 2013 Author Report Posted February 5, 2013 I thought about trading one of my 3 MKH50s for an 8050, but when I found someone willing to trade, we discussed both mikes, and he convinced me to not do the trade. He preferred the MKH50. May I inquire as to his professional experience? I assume high, as I see you sitting in front of your (assumed) sound cart in your profile pic. I have yet to start assembling my sound cart. (Even though I know everything I want on it, just a money factor) I'm jealous! Nice rig Ian
RPSharman Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 Honestly, I don't recall who it was. But we talked quite a bit about the characteristics of the 8040 and MKH50, which I knew, and he felt I would be similarly unhappy with the 8050 in comparison to my MKH50. However, several experienced people here love their 8050s and have given up their MHK50s, so really it's a matter of taste. I have grown so accustomed to my MHK50s, that almost any other mic is a disappointment to my ears. Bad? No - just different.
Jeff Wexler Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 I have one of the early 8000 series microphones (I have to admit I don't even remember if it is the 8040 or the 8050) and I have used it once and awhile for a plant microphone. I believe Glen Trew did fairly extensive testing of both the 8040 and 8050 and has settled in, I believe, using whichever one he preferred. I should really look and see which model I have before I make any more comment. I will also look for the review that Glen Trew wrote.
Ianellemo Posted February 5, 2013 Author Report Posted February 5, 2013 I will also look for the review that Glen Trew wrote. That would be awesome Jeff, thank you so much. I would have no idea where to even start looking for something of the like.
gpiegari Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 Glen Trew review: http://www.trewaudio.com/audioflow/2007/11/04/sennheiser-mkh8000-series/
aristotle_kumpis Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 A few years back, I used the 8050. The one I was using had very high handling noise. Even the slightest movement would create a low rumble noise. Like everyone says, the MKH50 is a very solid mic and sounds fantastic. Have you looked at the 8060?
johnpaul215 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Posted February 5, 2013 I've had an 8040 since 2009 and I don't find the handling noise to be a problem, neither does my usual boom op. I kind of followed Glen Trew's advice in that review and use an invision mount and the Schoeps hollow foam. I don't use it for fast moving ENG work, but we do for interviews and scripted work. If I was buying over, I would spend more time comparing an 8040 and 8050.
Ianellemo Posted February 5, 2013 Author Report Posted February 5, 2013 aristotle_kumpis, on 05 Feb 2013 - 14:02, said: A few years back, I used the 8050. The one I was using had very high handling noise. Even the slightest movement would create a low rumble noise. Like everyone says, the MKH50 is a very solid mic and sounds fantastic. Have you looked at the 8060? I Can't say I've ever looked into the 8060, no. I will now though! Thank you. Due to many people suggestion that there is a lot of handling noise from the 8050 I am leaning towards the MKH50. Thank you all for your replies and knowledge. Ian
Jason A Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 I picked up an 8050 early last year and used it on 4 different features with pretty good success. Yes, it is slightly more susceptible to handling noise than a MKH50 IMO, but not by much if you have the proper suspension and windscreen . The mic sounds great and the extremely small design is fantastic for doing car work. Also, it is capable of utilizing the digital module, so you have the option of going that route down the road if you want. I'm going to pick up a couple 8040s this year as well.
sonicparticle Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 Regarding the low freq susceptibility with the 8050: in the absence of the filter module, would that Rycote Tac!t do the trick? I will be purchasing an Audix SCX-1HC for the time being and I was thinking of pairing it with on of them for the same reason.
soundslikejustin Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 The sennheiser low cut module is next to useless. Get a tacit.
sonicparticle Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 The sennheiser low cut module is next to useless. Get a tacit. That's a strong argument...is it really that bad?
soundslikejustin Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 It's -3db @ 16hz in the off position, -3dB at 160hz (too high) in the on position
soundslikejustin Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 Yep. I've got a tacit that I'm hoping to build into my Cinela mount, as it 'whooshes' less than the Rycote...
Armin Siegwarth Posted February 11, 2013 Report Posted February 11, 2013 I did Not Need the tacit on the 8050 with invision lyres. On Sennheiser rubber suspension Mount unusable (Test with back to back Clips on 416)
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