Tyler Faison Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Here's something I whipped up yesterday in my downtime. Be prepared to watch the least interesting video you've ever seen. Then make a PA that's "interested in sound" watch it on your next show so they won't screw up your pieces of moleskin. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 How about a photo of the moleskin on your microphone? I'd like to see that so I know how you are using it. I am always interested in how folks are mounting and "silencing" lavaliers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicparticle Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Did a PA really annihilated your moleskin like that Tyler? How about a photo of the moleskin on your microphone? I'd like to see that so I know how you are using it. I am always interested in how folks are mounting and "silencing" lavaliers. I'd be up for this as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Faison Posted February 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 How about a photo of the moleskin on your microphone? I'd like to see that so I know how you are using it. I am always interested in how folks are mounting and "silencing" lavaliers. Moleskin on the lav...here ya go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicparticle Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Nice one! Do you topstick both sides? Same moleskin type on both sides? And since the capsule is fully exposed don't you get rustle by any friction there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Faison Posted February 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Nice one! Do you topstick both sides? Same moleskin type on both sides? And since the capsule is fully exposed don't you get rustle by any friction there? Just the two pieces of moleskin against each other. After I use the moleskin the first time, I'll just keep adding TopStick or more moleskin until I'm ready to change it all out. The two pieces are the same direction (sticky side down) and I leave the bottom piece with the the white sticker backing still on so that it's prepped. Travels great and saves time on set. I don't generally have a problem with friction, other than the occasional wardrobe issue. I typically tape down the wire for a strain relief. It's not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Holesome Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Was the decision to not use location audio made during the edit or was this shot MOS? I can imagine with a recent production expenditure for moleskin, it made Foley financially impractical... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Faison Posted February 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Was the decision to not use location audio made during the edit or was this shot MOS? I can imagine with a recent production expenditure for moleskin, it made Foley financially impractical... I believe they're calling camera mic MOS these days, so, yeah, MOS. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 and I've been buying it in rolls all this time. gah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicparticle Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 The two pieces are the same direction (sticky side down) and I leave the bottom piece with the the white sticker backing still on so that it's prepped. Sorry still not 100% clear on this: Do you TopStick the "bottom" moleskin on the subject (let's say someone's chest for example) and the top side - where the mic protrudes - to minimise fabric movement on the area that the mic is being place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Faison Posted February 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Sorry still not 100% clear on this: Do you TopStick the "bottom" moleskin on the subject (let's say someone's chest for example) and the top side - where the mic protrudes - to minimise fabric movement on the area that the mic is being place? No, not typically. I won't say never, but if I needed to stop the clothes from moving, I usually just TopStick the clothing to itself (like on a noisy button up shirt)...not the mic. I don't think I've had to TopStick a shirt to the skin. It's usually just zippers and shirts. But I'm sure there's a case where I might. I try to go on the clothing itself rather than the skin if at all possible. Obviously, it all depends... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicparticle Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Many thanks for the clarification Tyler! I will give this a try later on today but just in case you guys have tried this first, would there be any dramatic tonal difference if the moleskin covers the sides of the mic capsule, given of course that the mic is omni and the top, uncovered part, is pointing towards the talents mouth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Boisvert Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 ... would there be any dramatic tonal difference if the moleskin covers the sides of the mic capsule, given of course that the mic is omni and the top, uncovered part, is pointing towards the talents mouth? There is when using an RM. I don't know how that translates to moleskin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomboom Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 ...and it's the principles of "boost caps" used on most lavs ( DPA for one) : the more you cover the sides, the more you favor the highs. As for moleskin, I guess that'd be kind of a soft boost since it's probably not as sound rejecting as plastic ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Justice Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Love this video. Sharing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Wasserman Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Mesmerizing. Nice that you edited out the parts where you nipped your finger or the meaty part of your thumb... : ) MIdway through cutting up a roll of Moleskin, I am guilty of hovering the cursor over the 'BUY NOW' button for one of those Guillotine-style paper trimmers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackHenry Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 How did you put the timer in the top right of the video frame?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Faison Posted February 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 How did you put the timer in the top right of the video frame?? The magic of TV :-) I assume you mean keeping an accurate time while speeding up? Nesting. Or where did I get it from? It was a countdown timer I found on YouTube...from MineCraft I believe. Just cropped it and reversed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfergill Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Thanks for the pics and video. I've been wasting a lot of moleskin and, even though it's cheap, it's good to have a system for everything. I'm going to your moleskin microphone arrangement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 @dfwaudio Thank you for posting that. I just got some moleskin today and was wondering how best to use it. I guess it is all about timing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Palmer Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 ...and it's the principles of "boost caps" used on most lavs ( DPA for one) : the more you cover the sides, the more you favor the highs. As for moleskin, I guess that'd be kind of a soft boost since it's probably not as sound rejecting as plastic ? Doesn't covering the sides of an omni capsule result in a change of the directional characteristics of that capsule? From what I understand, covering the sides of a cardoid gives it more of an omni pattern. Does the opposite or similar happen when covering an omni? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomboom Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 I'm not sure if covering the sides of a cardioid (or omni) *to some point* would change it's pattern more than simply affect it's frequencies specs throughout its spectrum. I guess we're in for experimenting at this point, since it's more of a specific usage... even two years later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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