S Harber Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 i use the 4071 lavs with the microdot cut out as it is a point of failure. A 4K resistor from the hot lead and you're ready to go. They sound great on the Lectros and rig nicely in the circular plastic mount. S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneconnelly Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I made the move to DPA lavs a couple of years ago for the significant increase in fidelity over the sanken cos11's I had been using. The 4060 omni's were my mic of choice but they ship with microdot adaptors which are large and needed to be rewired with lectro compatible connectors. I found the wiring scheme recommended by lectro and DPA made for a really hot signal but some experimentation with different resistor values in the connector padded it down to a happy medium. Remember that Lectro sm's arent as hot as sma's and different than UM's too. The 4061's are about 10db lower by design and are good for screamers. The supplied hi freq boost cap is handy for ties and thick clothing. They also work great in cars. In the music world, these mics are highly regarded for piano and strings. IMO, they are worth the extra money ($500ish), but it hurts more when they are busted by silly actors.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 " the 4071 for mounting on the chest " & " some head miking so i purchased some 4060 mics " different responses for different uses (gee, that's probably why they offer choices)... thus "it depends" (watch for my <new-cap>, coming soon...) personally, I have several of each... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted July 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 The time has come... Actor busted a COS-11 at the head, so I have $369 toward a new DPA. Final verdicts? 4061 or 4072 - which resistor value for Lectro SM? The kind folks at LSC have offered to let me audition them, but "testing" is never really representative of real working experience. I'm inclined to use 4071, given that I have COS-11s and B6s for other applications. The middle of the chest will be the likely location for this mic. Or perhaps a tie knot? Thanks, Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryF Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 http://www.lectrosonics.com/Microphone-Wiring/uhf-transmitter-5-pin-input-jack-wiring.html Fig. 3 labeled "DPA microphones" Best, Larry F Lectro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Hayter Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Robert I use the 4071 when hiding the Mic and the 4061 when the Mic will be in the open/hairline etc. You'll love them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 " but "testing" is never really representative of real working experience. " audition them at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted July 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Robert I use the 4071 when hiding the Mic and the 4061 when the Mic will be in the open/hairline etc. You'll love them. I've ordered the 4071. Excited to include one in the kit. Hoping to not love it so much that I'll need to spend another $2.5k on 5 more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 " I'll need to spend another $2.5k on 5 more. " you need the deductions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toy Robot Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 I did a blind lav shoot-out at Pro-Sound a few months back. I'm not sure if it was the 71 or 61 they had rigged up, and I'm not arguing all the things we know about volume levels, controlled environments, positioning etc, however after about three to four seconds of speech on each lav (dialog spoken by another person, not me) I blind-picked the DPA above all others without hesitation and was not surprised to find out it was the DPA I had picked. That's a long way of saying I think you'll love it Robert. Prepare thy checkbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 I was initially under the impression the 4060/4061 was the mic to go for until talking to one of the DPA reps, who explained the 4071 was designed for chest mounting. I've been using for about a year now, and need another... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Hayter Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 I've ordered the 4071. Excited to include one in the kit. Hoping to not love it so much that I'll need to spend another $2.5k on 5 more. Er, I've got eight now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Just FYI, I use 4061 and 4060 exclusively. They too work great on the chest. But! The Swedish language is full of harsh consonants and other noises, so the 4071 tends to be a bit too harsh to my ears. They sound less like lavs to me.. I mean the 4060 and 4061 sound less like lavs to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted July 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 I auditioned a COS-11 and 4061 and 4071 side by side in a fast and unscientific test. I liked the 4061 too, but I think because it was closer to the COS-11, which I'm used to. I'm going to try out the 4071 for a while, and see what happens. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 The 4060/61 comes with different caps (I think they call them grids) which adjust the frequency response a bit. Or maybe they are optional. So you can get close to the 4071 sound with a 4961, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proctor Trivette Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Robert I ended up buying 2 DPA 4071's and fell in love with them! Big shout out to Dan Joseph from Gotham for all the great advice and help! I was on a commercial gig and broke them out for the first time a while ago...I was blown away! I've used COS-11's, Trams, etc, but the natural sound of a DPA was far more pleasing to my ears :-) You won't regret your purchase! Well your wallet will ;-) I ended buying 2 more since. Make sure you get plenty of plastic concealers, those are gold and work extremely well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Do you have a link to the specific plastic concealer you speak of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Ostroff Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Here is the one for the 4071, they also have it for the 4060/4061: http://www.dpamicrophones.com/en/products.aspx?c=Item&category=193&item=24194 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resonate Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Hello! One of my DPA 4060 stopped working properly - microphone works - but there signal to noise ratio has changed and now there's dominant noise apparent in the sound , and i get crackling when i touch the cable near a microdot connector. So i think the connector is broken. Now, i'm out of warranty, so i thought that i could rewire the mic to the lemo 6 pin connector for my Micron Explorer system, or even to a minijack to test with a sennheiser g3 first (I don't have a spare lemo lying around). Is it easy to do? I assume that if the mic is good, they will cut off the microdot at the factory anyway. So i thought I could try to rewire it myself. I have the pinout for the lemo, but will it be okay if i rewire it for G3? Thanks for all the thoughts! * WARNING! There's a loud thump in recording starting from 0:18. Please turn down your speakers!* p.s. I recorded the sound i get from the microphone - attached thru a DPA microdot->XLR connector. DPA_4060_broken.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 You should be fine wiring it to a miniplug. I don't know what voltage the G3 supports, but I doubt you'd hurt the microphone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Resonate: Please next time give alert about what we will go to hear. At 0:20 seconds it's not so cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resonate Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 I am very sorry Vasileios. Reflected the sound in an original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 I am very sorry Vasileios. Reflected the sound in an original post. Don't feel guilty or sorry mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resonate Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 i found some info about soldering DPA 4060 to 3,5 minijack here: http://www.blue-room.org.uk/index.php?showtopic=50701 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbois Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 I am wondering about the sensitivity that most are using in general with dpa's but 4061 most importantly. I found 4061 wt low sensitivity paired with 400a to be low. (Makes sense) i am wondering if standard or medium is would be better. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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