studiomprd Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) " he just wont do it any other way. " 10 a day ?? ($150 each) I'm surprised he does that much... guess the client gets what they pay for... and is satisfied with it. Edited April 20, 2013 by studiomprd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henchman Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Apparently the IC that does it for $150 does 10 a day, so they claim, i heard his work and he tends to use the same ambient for all INT DAY scenes/settings and the same crikets AC for the all the INT/NIGHT and he just wont do it any other way. That is all I know about the IC. yea very true it is why im still working there. Well, if the client is fine with it, then who cares? It's a soap opera, right? I mixed a Disney multi camera show. And they used the same backgrounds everytime. Why reinvent the wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 It's about greed up at the top, where somebody has decided they've got to produce x hours of y format for z budget... or a network has decided they'll pay only so many dollars but have to have a certain kind of programming because it gets better ratings / revenues... Sadly true. I know of a reality show where even the on-screen talent were griping that their day rates were lower than previous seasons, due to budget cuts. Realistically, we had a 6-man crew doing roughly the work of a 10-man crew, which yielded lower quality and higher stress all the way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbois Posted April 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Well, if the client is fine with it, then who cares? It's a soap opera, right? I mixed a Disney multi camera show. And they used the same backgrounds everytime. Why reinvent the wheel? For instance "Joes house-int day" has to sound different the "billies house int day" at the start of the soap a pre created different "int-day /ext- night etc to correspond with a certain usual setting so its drag and drop after. But there is tge occasinal new setting like "int- rock climbing warehouse" with ppl. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbois Posted April 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Sadly true. I know of a reality show where even the on-screen talent were griping that their day rates were lower than previous seasons, due to budget cuts. Realistically, we had a 6-man crew doing roughly the work of a 10-man crew, which yielded lower quality and higher stress all the way around. Yielded lower quality is exactly what they said to me to do so that i could go faster. I'd like to post it on sound cloud and get feedback of what you guys think. Its a weird feeling to be told do low quality when you envision yourself one day being renowned in your career. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henchman Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Don't worry about someday. Worry about now, and pleasing your client today. Being difficult, even if you are trying to make things better, will give you a negative reputation. Give the client what they want. Make them happy, even if your not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Mark gives good advice above! Sadly, often the rule in de bidness is: give the client what they want, especially if they can't afford the time or money to do it better. All that's expected is for you to do the best you can under the circumstances. [update: corrected typo!] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conleec Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Mark gives good advice above! Sadly, often the rule in de bidness is: give the client what you want, especially if they can't afford the time or money to do it better. All that's expected is for you to do the best you can under the circumstances. It is a vicious circle though: in a perfect world you want your current work to be of sufficient quality to help you ascend to the next level. That said, Mark and Marc are right. Get the job done, make the client happy, and keep looking for an opportunity to leap to the next rung. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 "make the client happy, " making the client happy is what will enable you to climb up the ladder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleueblancrouge Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I currently pay my editors $375-$450 day ( as a freelance contractor ) hey deanmc, can you believe that we're getting paid 250-350 for editing work here in montreal (doc, fiction for tv and film). i'm telling you, it's freakin' disgraceful. i know that the standard of living is lower but it seems everyone else in the country is surpassing us. what's a real drag is that we have no union to keep producers in check here in quebec. at least not for post sound. very frustrating. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbois Posted April 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 Thanks for the advice, really appreciate it. I wonder sometimes if in post sound it helps to have gone to school to work with good companies and network. Since i am self taught. Which route did you guys take? School or not? I can see how production sound is different. I am considering Vancouver Film School for there "1 year intensive program" Thoughts? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henchman Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Do not waste your money of the vancouver film school. Learn as much as you can where you are. Start networking online on the DUC and Gearlsutz post group. Then move to LA when you think yo are ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sounddguy Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 It's a business first, and art form second. Don't worry about someday. Worry about now, and pleasing your client today. Being difficult, even if you are trying to make things better, will give you a negative reputation. Give the client what they want. Make them happy, even if your not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Never mind the film school, esp if it is a "trade" type school. You already have the gig that all those new graduates will be applying for! Do the work and learn all you can now, if you have a flair for this kind of gig then other opportunities will show up sooner or later. If you do go to LA etc then already having your skills. a resume and an employment history in post will put you way up the line ahead of the new film school graduates. philp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbois Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Thanks for all the advice!!! I will really take it to heart. Im still holding strong here and ill probably do so till i know pro tools in and out (& another DAW just in case) and make the LA move. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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