RPSharman Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I hope you are being nicely compensated. And I'm glad to see Zaxcom and Lectro (via Pro Sound) both represented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atheisticmystic Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I'm against it. How much of a subscription would I have to buy to be a paying, non-banner member? I'll gladly do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I have zero problem with the banners here as they exist now. I do hate clutter and would not like to see this place become like most of the sites out there. It's not really up to us, rather its up to our host JW to decide what works for him. My 2 cents. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 If they're ads for our 'usual suspects' or manufacturers, and it helps the running of the site, then that's ok. I like the minimal format. If they were to become more intrusive, I'd be a paying 'ad-free' member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Stalder Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Congratulations on the banner adds Jeff, they are very tastfull and not at all distracting or cluttering. This is an amazing resource for the GLOBAL sound community - you deserve a bit extra. Rob stalder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Mega Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I don't have any problem with the ads either. Quite some time ago, I actually suggested it to Jeff via PM. I'm not trying to take any credit for the idea but I think it's fine to have ads. My 2 cents Mega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audio911 Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Great spot to promote new gear or services to an EXTREMELY targeted audience... Steve Wytas www.audio911.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound Grab Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Just as long the banners don't end up between posts.. I'm okay with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seth Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Hmm what was my donation for then? I think we all know about new products and usuall suspects. But I guess it is the "jwsound" forum. It's cool daddy'o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccsnd Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 how much are banners!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim M Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Alas, the beginning of the end, I love Jeff, but he won't be able to do this forever. This site has influence over probably 90% of our market, why not cash in on it to provide for some of his family etc. I would definitely do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I have no problem with it either. It is a good way for a dealer or manufacturer to let us know about something new or a if there is special going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProSound Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I have no problem with it either. It is a good way for a dealer or manufacturer to let us know about something new or a if there is special going on. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWilson Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 As long as Subway don't put one up ; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Tuzo Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I'm personally not a fan. While I completely understand the need to generate some revenue for the time you put into this site, I, myself, feel the donations (or even a subscription) would be the better approach. I think my hangup is this: The vendors and manufacturers whom are more secure both in reputation, and financially, now have a further upper-hand. I just wouldn't want this to be the beginning of the de-democratization of the site. With dealer/manufacturer financial interests at stake, I worry that some may feel less inclined to share their true feelings about a particular vendor or manufacturer's piece of gear. I may be over thinking this, but I wonder if it also becomes a fish-in-a-barrel type scenario of buying out the opinion of a captive audience. However it all shakes out, I respect that it is your site to do with as you please... And thank you for hosting all of us as the guests who refuse to go home. Best, Wyatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 As long as Subway don't put one up ; ) Good one. Hey Wyatt, I understand your concern but the democracy and exchange of thoughts, stories, POV's, et all..., is up to us to continue and keep true. I think most of the vendors and shops are on our side because it is their side as well. Time will tell. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I'm totally for it. I know that Jeff has expenses, and I don't mind seeing a small banner ad, especially when it's something that's expressly directed to our industry. I'd have a different reaction if there were pop-ups, ads for cigarettes, gambling websites, porno, and all the other crap that leaches on to the net. But the site deserves to make its own income to help pay for bandwidth, upkeep, backups, and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I feel that my local vendors are like my extended family. I support them and they support me. It's not like they are "big box" companies. Good one. Hey Wyatt, I understand your concern but the democracy and exchange of thoughts, stories, POV's, et all..., is up to us to continue and keep true. I think most of the vendors and shops are on our side because it is their side as well. Time will tell. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Orusa Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I think it is wise to monetize the site in such a way. Ads are how many websites such as this are supported. If they become too annoying, I will just visit less often. My opinion aside, it's Jeff's site and he can do as he pleases. Mark O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Where is the RED adv? Hahaha :~D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound Art Film Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Well put Wyatt. And, ditto! Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Mega Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I don't think anyone holds back on their thoughts about vendors and manufacturers. Most of them read this anyway so it's no different in that respect. I've said this before, they ( the vendors and manufacturers) need us as much as we need them. They don't (or shouldn't ) want to alienate us in any way so pop ups etc should not plague this site. Speaking for myself, the banners will not influence a purchase I would make. For example, I prefer Sound Devices recorders, I highly doubt seeing a Maxx banner will ever make me buy a Maxx. That's just me though. I guess some people might be affected subliminally, who knows? I do however like that I can keep up with the latest gear by seeing a banner about whats available. We don't have alot of choice here in Australia when it comes to "usual suspects" so that makes no difference to influential sales. I guess in the US, there could be alot of competition but all's fair in love and war. As long as the banners are from our pro dealers, it's fine. Cheers Mega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Mega Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Oh and by the way, the banners are so small on the mobile version of this site on my iPhone that I can hardly see it anyway!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I'm personally not a fan. While I completely understand the need to generate some revenue for the time you put into this site, I, myself, feel the donations (or even a subscription) would be the better approach. I think my hangup is this: The vendors and manufacturers whom are more secure both in reputation, and financially, now have a further upper-hand. I just wouldn't want this to be the beginning of the de-democratization of the site. With dealer/manufacturer financial interests at stake, I worry that some may feel less inclined to share their true feelings about a particular vendor or manufacturer's piece of gear. I may be over thinking this, but I wonder if it also becomes a fish-in-a-barrel type scenario of buying out the opinion of a captive audience. However it all shakes out, I respect that it is your site to do with as you please... And thank you for hosting all of us as the guests who refuse to go home. Best, Wyatt Forgive me Wyatt if I have failed to understand exactly what you are saying. I really don't see how the presence of ads from the usual suspects (vendors, manufacturers) has any bearing on the discussions here on JWSOUND. With the purchase of ad space the companies putting up advertising have not been granted any special rights or moderation permission, nothing on the site has changed in this regard. "The vendors and manufacturers whom are more secure both in reputation, and financially, now have a further upper-hand." --- what is this "upper hand" that you claim I have given them? "With dealer/manufacturer financial interests at stake, I worry that some may feel less inclined to share their true feelings about a particular vendor or manufacturer's piece of gear." If I'm reading this correctly, whose "financial interests" are we talking about? There is already the prevalent phenomenon we have all experienced where an individual may defend the specific product they are using because of their financial stake in that equipment or company. Manufacturers and Dealers have already been using JWSOUND to promote and advertise (for FREE in the Manufacturers & Dealers section) and this has not de-democratized the site or muzzled any of our members commenting on the products we use. I just felt it was time to compel the manufacturers and dealers to pay a little something to be able to advertise to our community on this site. "I may be over thinking this, but I wonder if it also becomes a fish-in-a-barrel type scenario of buying out the opinion of a captive audience." I don't think there is anyone on this site whose opinions can be so easily bought and formal paid for advertising isn't going to change that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 +1, to your response. Way to go Jeff. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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