manon Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 New product from Cinela called HADES They put the VDB phantom supply inside the PIANO microphone windshield. More details: http://www.dcaudiovisuel.com/news_info.php/news_id/108?DCASID=4qduqagfjpobi1ubsf9hqminb7 For now this product is a prototype, they are testing the PIANO in a humid environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkautzsch Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 When I boom, I don't mind a TX at the mic end. Neither do my boomers when I mix. We all seem to prefer a little more weight over a lot of cable wrangling. Older suspensions were way heavier than, say, an InVision mount, so it doesn't feel a lot different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjh Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I used the areitec rig until I got my TRX742, it's a great rig and had no problems with it, quality of audio was to my ear no different to a cable. I actually think the areitec system might be a little lighter than the 742, it's a bit more fiddly but not much. My boom uses it on the mic end of the pole unless long swing time or length when its cabled to a a belt pouch, never rigged it on the end of the boom as don't use internal cabled booms here either. Regards, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 New product from Cinela called HADES They put the VDB phantom supply inside the PIANO microphone windshield. I really don't understands why anyone would want to do this. I loved my vdB powering cable that I used almost everyday for the 20 years I used Audio, Ltd. wireless --- one of the best things about the Audio, Ltds the ease with which we could power a microphone directly from the transmitter whether for the boom or typically, for me, a quick plant mic. But why put that power INSIDE the windscreen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Miramontes Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Not trying to hijack but here's my poor man's TRX942 concept. (I haven't tried it yet but I don't see why it wouldn't work) MM1 NeoPax Ankle Strap TRX900LA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Not a hijack but lots of people have used the MM-1 as a front end for wireless boom work. That combination does not provide any return monitoring, remote control via Zaxnet or backup recording. Using the MM-1 setup does give you one of the nice features of the 942 which is the ability to listen to the mic directly off the preamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Not a hijack but lots of people have used the MM-1 as a front end for wireless boom work. That combination does not provide any return monitoring, remote control via Zaxnet or backup recording. Using the MM-1 setup does give you one of the nice features of the 942 which is the ability to listen to the mic directly off the preamp. You could add an ERX or a Comtek or LectroIFB if you wanted return, and feed it through the MM-1, and this setup does do backup recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Miramontes Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Not a hijack but lots of people have used the MM-1 as a front end for wireless boom work. That combination does not provide any return monitoring, remote control via Zaxnet or backup recording. Using the MM-1 setup does give you one of the nice features of the 942 which is the ability to listen to the mic directly off the preamp. The TRX900LA would be controlled via Zaxnet and will have the backup recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Miramontes Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 You could add an ERX or a Comtek or LectroIFB if you wanted return, and feed it through the MM-1, and this setup does do backup recording. Yup, this is true. Most of these items are regular pieces of gear so it shouldn't be too hard to piece something like this together if you already have Zax wireless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Sorry, my mistake, of course the Zaxcom TRX900 has the recording feature. Wasn't thinking clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Most of the wireless booms you see over here (UK) seem to be an audio 2020/2040 TX at the mic end. The only solution I've seen for the end of the pole is Ambient's QAPL adaptor (the large hole clamps round the boom): http://www.ambient.de/en/products/ambient-recording/boompoles/accessories/qapl.html Another problem I've come across with most cabled poles is that you can't securely fasten some plug on transmitters, as they screw around the XLR barrel and the XLR connector is flush with the pole. Here's my current setup with an Sennheiser 8060 and SKP3000 transmitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ao Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Most of the wireless booms you see over here (UK) seem to be an audio 2020/2040 TX at the mic end. The only solution I've seen for the end of the pole is Ambient's QAPL adaptor (the large hole clamps round the boom): http://www.ambient.d...ories/qapl.html Another problem I've come across with most cabled poles is that you can't securely fasten some plug on transmitters, as they screw around the XLR barrel and the XLR connector is flush with the pole. Here's my current setup with an Sennheiser 8060 and SKP3000 transmitter I use an ambient qat with my zaxcom trx742 plug on: http://www.ambient.de/en/products/ambient-recording/boompoles/accessories/qat.html ao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Most of the wireless booms you see over here (UK) seem to be an audio 2020/2040 TX at the mic end. The only solution I've seen for the end of the pole is Ambient's QAPL adaptor (the large hole clamps round the boom): http://www.ambient.d...ories/qapl.html A lot of mixers in the UK use this bracket which fits between the pole and the mic mount. I personally have never heard a complaint from a boom op about using one. Malcolm Davies. A.m.p.s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindrop Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 A lot of mixers in the UK use this bracket which fits between the pole and the mic mount. I personally have never heard a complaint from a boom op about using one. Malcolm Davies. A.m.p.s. Who makes the bracket please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Who makes the bracket please? We make them and the other mixer who has them made for resale is Ian Sands who also makes a very good cat 5 box fitted with XLR's. Malcolm Davies. A.m.p.s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Sorry if I missed this--but on your pic the cylinder next to the TX is what--a mic PSU? Re MM1 use--no BU recording (that hasn't been an issue for me yet), we do TB via a separate Comtek channel that is only my TB mic, turned down low in the boom op's headphones (via the MM1 moni rtn input). So far the boomies really appreciate the clarity (and lack of latency) of what they are hearing right off off the MM1. I talk them in on the TX gain. Not all the big Zax solution is, but workable with parts that can be used other ways too. philp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Ambient also make a similar bracket which has a short section of pole attached for the top. When talking about the QAPL- I meant the end you hold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg sextro Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Not trying to hijack but here's my poor man's TRX942 concept. (I haven't tried it yet but I don't see why it wouldn't work) MM1 NeoPax Ankle Strap TRX900LA I do see a problem with this - the out of the mm-1 is line level and the input of your zax is mic level. If you have a STA 100/150 and a regular trx transmitter, then yes, I think it would be a good set up. Here's what I've been testing, though not thoroughly yet: remote level control and recording, etc. I would use an erx for headphone return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I do see a problem with this - the out of the mm-1 is line level and the input of your zax is mic level. If you have a STA 100/150 and a regular trx transmitter, then yes, I think it would be a good set up. Here's what I've been testing, though not thoroughly yet: remote level control and recording, etc. I would use an erx for headphone return. Does the Deneke (I assume it's a PS1-a) care that it's seeing 3.3v at it's output? Or do you have some kind of DC block in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg sextro Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 It's a PSC supply. And I don't know. I plan on calling Ron to double check. The folks at Zaxcom said the TX should be fine. I don't see how it would be a problem as people use a similar setup with a Lectro TX all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 It's a PSC supply. And I don't know. I plan on calling Ron to double check. The folks at Zaxcom said the TX should be fine. I don't see how it would be a problem as people use a similar setup with a Lectro TX all the time. In the TA5 connector of Lectro Transmitters, you set the Bias voltage depending on how you jump (or not) pin 4. There is an option for the bias voltage to be 0V, which is what I assume people use when they don't need to power something on the other end. In that case, the PSC (I was close...) box would see nothing, but in the Zaxcom case, it would see 3.3v - I don't believe there is a way to shut the mic power voltage off. Probably won't do any damage, but I'm just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 TRX900aa/STA150/MM1 = poor man's TRX942, and it works well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Sorry if I missed this--but on your pic the cylinder next to the TX is what--a mic PSU? philp Phillip! The cylinder is a 48 volt power unit which is powered from the Audio 2020 transmitter. It's made in Switzerland and marketed by Audio Limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg sextro Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 In the TA5 connector of Lectro Transmitters, you set the Bias voltage depending on how you jump (or not) pin 4. There is an option for the bias voltage to be 0V, which is what I assume people use when they don't need to power something on the other end. In that case, the PSC (I was close...) box would see nothing, but in the Zaxcom case, it would see 3.3v - I don't believe there is a way to shut the mic power voltage off. Probably won't do any damage, but I'm just curious. Just got off the phone with Ron. He said it should not be a problem with the 3.3v being supplied to the output of the PSC phantom supply. He suggested though that I might put in a low value resistor between pins 1 and 3 of the female xlr connector that goes into the PSC. I will do some full mic and listening tests now and report back. -g- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Just got off the phone with Ron. He said it should not be a problem with the 3.3v being supplied to the output of the PSC phantom supply. He suggested though that I might put in a low value resistor between pins 1 and 3 of the female xlr connector that goes into the PSC. I will do some full mic and listening tests now and report back. -g- That's great! I've been thinking of making something like this too, good to know it's supposed to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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