Zack Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 It's easy to do on either device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 >It's easy to do on either device. But by implementing it that way you can decode any source anywhere without rigid MS declarations for recording or monitoring. And you can invert the resulting LR (to RL) very simply (by phase inverting on the other S destination), for when you have your MS pair turned 180 degrees (you suddenly have to boom from below) or you are micing counter axis re. camera. And you can decode MS, Double MS and (iirc) B-Format. So it is simpler, computationally cheaper, versatile and works for anything (recording, monitoring) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Yes, that's the only thing that is needed. I do it constantly on Deva for many years (and anywhere, ProTools, physical mixing console permitting that kind of routing, etc) You don't need to split the signal. You are already assigning each source signal to two tracks or two outputs or headphone's LR. You assign M source to both destinations and assign S source to both destinations also but the one becoming R has to be phase inverted. yes, exactly and this is where you need to split it, isn't it? Otherwise where would you invert the phase of S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Isaacs Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 What about correcting metadata after recording? Possible? Easy using a keyboard? Yes - easy with or without a keyboard. And all edits simultaneously go across both media so that backup is always identical to master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 >where would you invert the phase of S? Where it needs to : ) just look at the little diagram I did. You assign a source to a destination but phase inverted. I'm not saying you can do that with current SD recorders (that's the point), I'm suggesting SD to switch from "declaring" an MS pair to simply allow for phase inversion when assigning, so you can do it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Yes - easy with or without a keyboard. And all edits simultaneously go across both media so that backup is always identical to master. Thanks Paul, that's really great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 >where would you invert the phase of S? Where it needs to : ) just look at the little diagram I did. You assign a source to a destination but phase inverted. in your diagram you have two versions of the S signal. One normal, one flipped. That means you need to split, or multiply, the signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 in your diagram you have two versions of the S signal. One normal, one flipped. That means you need to split, or multiply, the signal. No, it is simply assigned to two destinations. On Deva, Fusion, etc you assign any source to any destination. One source can be assigned to many destinations if needed (one input to many tracks for instance or one track to many outputs, etc) On 633 it could not be done on ISO tracks unfortunately (since they are hardwired to their tracks), but it could be done with mix or aux tracks as destinations I guess (IF "phase inversion while assigning" would be implemented, of course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Hi . I have a question. May be my question is very stupid for you but here my question.Can I swith on lectro lavs receiver to 4. 5. 6 line inputs???.best regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 (IF "phase inversion while assigning" would be implemented, of course)since this thread popped up again... This last sentence of yours is key here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 ARH: " I have a question " once was enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean ONeil Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Hi . I have a question. May be my question is very stupid for you but here my question.Can I swith on lectro lavs receiver to 4. 5. 6 line inputs???.best regards Hi ARH, To answer your question, yes, you can feed the 4,5,and 6 line inputs from your Lectro RX's. A lot of us have short 18" or so custom cables made for that: right angle female XLR to TA3 Female. Good luck, and if you have any more questions, please post them here as there are a plethora of really helpful, talented, considerate, and compassionate sound mixers here who remember what it was like when they were just starting out. Cheers, Sean O'Neil Brooklyn NYC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Hi ARH, To answer your question, yes, you can feed the 4,5,and 6 line inputs from your Lectro RX's. A lot of us have short 18" or so custom cables made for that: right angle female XLR to TA3 Female. Good luck, and if you have any more questions, please post them here as there are a plethora of really helpful, talented, considerate, and compassionate sound mixers here who remember what it was like when they were just starting out. Cheers, Sean O'Neil Brooklyn NYC Thank you very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codyman Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Accidentally posted twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codyman Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 I just used my 633 up at 10,590 feet above sea level and in 20°F weather. Hell, I even mixed from it on the back of a snowmobile and it never let me down. Love this thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onbran Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 I just used my 633 up at 10,590 feet above sea level and in 20°F weather. Hell, I even mixed from it on the back of a snowmobile and it never let me down. Love this thing! That sounds awesome! I just ordered mine. Can't wait to explore the machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 It's the best, you'll love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorgyD Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Between my first and second interview today (powering down in between), my 633 did a factory reset and erased all of my track labels and general settings. Though my firmware stayed up to date and didn't revert. It was mildly inconvenient and gave me a minor heart attack when my boom no longer worked (channel reset to mic, no phantom). Took me 8.3 seconds to find the problem, but that was a looong 8.3 seconds. Anyone else had a similar experience? Only time it's done it in the 6 months I've had it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 morgy: " Anyone else had a similar experience? " maybe... but you did! " Only time it's done it in the 6 months I've had it. " CRAP happens... you might contact SD tech support, or go on their customer support users' group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osa Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 I think knowing about ~push menu button for 10 seconds to force reboot on freeze~ is going to be very important for 633 operatives to know. Joel, make sure to learn this button combo! The power switch needs to be in the off position, as well.On a job today working on a short reality piece with my 633. Set up to camera and everything was good, and we were patiently waiting for our scene to start with about 5 to 10 minutes to spare. Went to power my gear on just before we were about to roll, and I saw nothing but a black screen on my 633. Blue light blinking, but no boot up no matter what power option internal, external, etc. Before panic could totally set in, I immediately pulled my 633 out of my bag and ran to grab my mix pre-D to throw in my bag. Everyone should have at least this model or equiv in their kit as a bu for just such an emergency. It saved my arse. It was literally seconds later that the scene started and I was able to seamlessly carry on for the time being. When I had a second to catch my breath, I did a quick Google search and found this. Had no idea about this reset option. Thank you google and thank you jw. It worked. All is right again. Going to put on more anti-perspirant now. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staudio Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 currently using a 552, use IDX Lithium Ion to power mixer and usually 2 or 3 411's. This set up works well for my needs. for those of you using NP's batteries to power the 663, is that working out well? For simplicity and cost reasons, I would like just to continue to use NP's for both packages rather than have to purchase the B2 batteries for use with the 663... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 st: " for those of you using NP's batteries to power the 663, is that working out well? " of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staudio Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 well I was vague....just trying to find out batter life of NP's when powering a 663 and a couple 411's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 st: " just trying to find out... " it depends... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Wynne Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 I use a 633, with a couple 411's and a SRB, and remote lite, getting about 6 hours + continuous run time out of a single np1. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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