Sebben Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Does anyone know anything else about these new units? http://www.sony.co.uk/pro/products/broadcast-products-professional-audio-hybrid The UWP-D series components are small and lightweight, making them suitable for a range of field production needs. Three packages of UWP-D series are available: • UWP-D11: Bodypack Transmitter, Portable Receiver • UWP-D12: Handheld Microphone, Portable Receiver • UWP-D16: Plug-on Transmitter, Bodypack Transmitter, Portable Receiver The UWP-D series uses new hybrid digital processing technology to achieve high quality sound. This technology performs signal processing by digital commanding, with transmission handled by conventional analog FM modulation. The result is improved transient response performance between the transmitter and receiver, and clear sound reproduction. The UWP-D components’ display is twice the size of previous UWP series, with a white background making information easier to see. The new series employs wide frequency coverage, with a wide band of up to 72 MHz coverage available, so users can select from a broader range of operating frequencies. UWP-D11/D12 — $799 UWP-D16 — $1,029 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 looks like theyve been studying Lectrosonics systems. though the THD figure is a lot higher than other systems. 0.9% compared to 0.2% for lectro 400 series and <0.3% for audio ltd at maximum gain. though what that would translate to in the real world would be hard to say without testing for yourself. what is the price on them compared to other systems? sony tends to have quite a high MSRP when products are first released, though dealers may offer better deals. and service and support may be trickier when dealing with the appropriate department / sub division of sony compared the other manufacturers we know and love. and, NAB isnt too far away, so see what else is on offer then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebben Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 A video introduction. Seems to be pretty good value, $749, for plugin transmitter, body back transmitter, and body pack receiver. Metal construction I wonder what corners they are cutting. If someone sees these at NAB could they take a look. Wondering how it all compares to the Sennheiser G3 system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Sebben: " I wonder what corners they are cutting. If someone sees these at NAB could they take a look. Wondering how it all compares to the Sennheiser G3 system. " huh? well probably the same corners that other manufacturers cut when they make their lower end products... like Sennheiser, who makes the Evolution wireless microphone systems (in series 100-300-etc, cutting corners on the lower end, adding corners on the higher end), and Sennheiser also makes medium and high level lines, too. same thing for Shure, AKG, and the others... while Id expect them to be good values for the $$, remember the rule: "generally speaking, you get what you pay for"... and, BTW, if they have them at NAB, many folks will be looking them over. say, have Lectro's patents expired already..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Reilly Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Man..if you have no answer..what was the point of that, Senator? Tech progresses...generally lowering entry to standard abilities. I would like to see/hear a review, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndeSchurr Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Just following up here...has anyone had a chance to review these units? They're offered in New Zealand for NZ$1220+GST at Protel (plug-on and body-pack with receiver) but they went 'flying out the door' apparently and there are no demos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syncsound Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 The website isn't very clear, but here are two things of interest: Operating Frequencies CH21 470.025 - 542.000 [MHz] ; CH33 566.025 - 630.000 [MHz] ; CH42 638.025 - 694.000 [MHz] ; CH51 710.025 - 782.000 [MHz] RF Power 30mW / 5mW Looks like you're limited to 30mW total output power. Reads like it might be a better sounding Evolution series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisnewton Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 $799 at B and H for the kit with the belt pack and 48v plug on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndeSchurr Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 I found this review: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlw Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 say, have Lectro's patents expired already..? No, they have not. Neither has our trademark on "Digital Hybrid Wireless" Two separate issues. The patent we have is for the acutal mode of transmission (predictive algorithm based), which is different than what Sony is doing (DSP compandor). Our trademark on "Digital Hybrid Wireless" was just renewed actually. Sony assures us that they will not have "Hybrid Digital" all over their stuff at the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karri Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 No one with any hands-on experience with these? I'd love some A/B sound quality samples compared to the Senn G3's for instance (with same model mics of course, like a Rode or a Sanken). The guy on a bike without wind protection, talking about the rejection of the (omni) mics doesn't quite cut it. One shouldn't expect too much, but if they sound any better than G3's, have a comparable range, that'd be useful info since they're priced about the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 What kind of A/B test is between Sony UWP-D and Sennheiser G3 without wind protection? It's not a rocket science to put a wind protection on lavalier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbooy Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 It seems to have a 0,35 ms audio delay..... Alex (Amsterdam) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire soundie Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I have used them a fair bit. First things first - the Sony mic they come with is shockingly bad. Take your best lapel mic, wrap it in a dozen socks, and that's what they sound like. Plug a decent microphone in though, and they're fine. The socket isn't compatible with Sennheiser, but you can make an adaptor cable that works just fine. Other than that, they're ok. Range isn't brilliant and they don't work well in a bag (can't see the display), but they're very well built. The antennas can't be disconnected. The battery compartment is a great idea and really easy to change. I still don't understand the frequency selection menu, it's gobbledegook. Personally, I'd still buy the Sennheiser system. The supplied microphone is miles better, and they're everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karri Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 So you would say that in a bag they work about as well ad the Senns? Also, I don't think many folks here are seriousmy looking at either this or the Senn system with the idea of working with the stock mics. This is why I'd love to hear an A/B with this/Senns with a Sanken or DPA capsule. Thanks for sharing your experiences! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire soundie Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 They're probably about the same. I'm afraid I can't do a comparison, it's a big job spread over the year and I'm not using my own kit. The client's kit has no facility to record audio. I've had about 4 running at once, around the 606-612 range. No problems with interference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searey81 Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 They're probably about the same. I'm afraid I can't do a comparison, it's a big job spread over the year and I'm not using my own kit. The client's kit has no facility to record audio. I've had about 4 running at once, around the 606-612 range. No problems with interference. Do you have the tx's running on high or low power? The reason i ask is that i found a huge difference in range when i switched to high power on the transmitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire soundie Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 No idea, all I can do is compare them to my Lectros (and before that, my 2020s), which on 50mW will get the full length of a football pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searey81 Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 You can change the tx power when you switch it on, just press the lower button and the power button at the same time, it'll then give you the option in the menu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyfoxx Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 I had high hopes for these units but their too much like the last gen with even some of the same flaws. The included lav mic is useless and will have to be upgraded. The range is a bit better compared to a G3 but the sound quality isn't as good. These are certainly a bit clearer than the last gen UWP but they still suffer from some kind of compression. I think Sony designed these for DSLR users. I still have two of the last gen I use as hops and they actually work well for that purpose. And with the ECM77 their usable if I need more lavs than my Lectros. But if your doing location sound the G3 is still the best budget option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searey81 Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 I got a set to try out for cam hop, I'm pretty happy with them for that purpose. I like the size and shape of them for fixing to camera batteries etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Coomer Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 One cool feature is the built in headphone jack on the receiver. I know a couple of guys using them as wireless feeds to their boom op. They're great for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Reilly Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 I imagine it is hard to compare these units with sennheiser G3 since lav (upgrade) wiring is different. Different lavs have different peaking which can influence companders etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire soundie Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 I'm going to add that these transmitters are very sensitive to low frequencies. Until this weekend I've never had to use LF cut, but a Tram hidden behind a t-shirt on a male presenter easily overloaded the TX. That's not a problem I've ever had with any other radio gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Williamson Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 BUMP. Has anybody used the plug on transmitter for their wireless boom? It's almost sacrilege to compare a Lectro to a Sony (again the "you get what you pay for" resonates with me) but I'm looking at a cheaper alternative to a Lectro HM and UCR411 combo which will cost far more than this Sony package- if the Sony plug on works as well as its beltpack transmitter (comparison tests to the G3s suggest it gets better range) then it might be something I'm willing to add to my existing kit of older Lectro 200c's. There aren't any user reviews of the plug on transmitter available on Youtube. Anyone got some first hand experience to share? Cheers, Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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