RadoStefanov Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 The set comes with only one fur. Which fur should I get? I tested the piano and was very impressed. unfortunately there was no wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelza30 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Get them all. The only one I use infrequently is the neoprene and it's the cheapest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Palmer Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 I have the neoprene cover and the high wind one that looks like a skunk. I've only put that high wind one on once. The rest of the time I just use the neoprene sock. It's kind of amazing. P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I think i will get the lowest wind one and go from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Get both, it's nice to have it on those days. I always kicked myself when I came to set not prepared for the big winds. Just used it last week and was very very impressed. Get both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 By both you mean the neoprene and one fur? Or two furs in addition to the neoprene? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy P Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Hey Rado, I've got them all, so thin two tone one, then a medium length black one and a high wind "skunk". I'm surprised people are using only the neoprene without any fur? There can't have been any wind at all. Even with the high wind "skunk" in really really windy conditions, it's not enough, but definately offers more attenuation of wind than rycotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I took the high wind one and I'm quite happy. I thought I could go with the neoprene sock in most low wind situations (and so it was), so I preferred to invest on the most critical high wind situations. vale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bralleput Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Rado get the neoprene (nice and transparrent) but get the skunk as well....As is stated above ;it may save your ass when the wind is euh windy! In that case take off the neoprene and put on the skunk.Very hard to put BOTH of m on (Rycotestyle) David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoluSon Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 I have te high wind version. When i use it in extreme high wind conditions i sooner hear the wind passing the boom pole then into the microphone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ronnerblad Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 I recently bought the piano. But I get a bit confused here, when you speak of the neoprene, do you mean the thin "fixed" cover on the basket? When I bought it I had the options of short fur, long fur, very long fur and the rain cover. I got it all except for the very long fur: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ronnerblad Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 And regarding to Cinelas homepage you shouldn't be taking that thin neoprene off when used with furs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 i don't feel it is hard to put either of the furs on the Piano. Yes - i believe the neoprene is not to be removed. in any case, to remove the bottom part is not easy - the entire neoprene cover is meant to be kept on, it holds the two parts of the windshield in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ronnerblad Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 But I have noticed that the over part of the plastic basket gets a bit "wide". But yes, the neoprene keeps it almost always in place. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erkal Taskin Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 How much is the audible difference between the high wind and low wind fur regarding loss of frequencies? I was thinking to just buy the high wind and be done with it but then I came across this thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 It's hard to say what the differences are between the normal low wind fur and the high wind fur. I would say there is an audible difference and I would always prefer to use the lighter fur (low wind) as long as it is getting the job done (reducing wind noise). We actually have not used the high wind fur that often and the times that we have it has worked well with minimal penalty, to my ears, in terms of high frequency response. I believe it is well within the range of some gentle EQ to restore any loss of highs with the high wind fur. For me, I still prefer to have both available and would not want to have only the one fur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erkal Taskin Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 It's hard to say what the differences are between the normal low wind fur and the high wind fur. I would say there is an audible difference and I would always prefer to use the lighter fur (low wind) as long as it is getting the job done (reducing wind noise). We actually have not used the high wind fur that often and the times that we have it has worked well with minimal penalty, to my ears, in terms of high frequency response. I believe it is well within the range of some gentle EQ to restore any loss of highs with the high wind fur. For me, I still prefer to have both available and would not want to have only the one fur. Thanks for the tip Jeff, I will get both as well then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 Have the really short black fur for my pianissimo and like it a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikko Kolehmainen Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 I also find myself using just the primary fabric most of the time, works really well! And when I really need strong wind protection I use the high wind fur. No need for third fur so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahlad Strickland Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) I have the new fur, and the old fur, the new fur I haven't directly compared to the old fur... I will try do some tests. the new fur is thicker, not longer... but they tell me it's more transparent than the old fur. The new fur is very resistant to light rain which is a bonus, I can only describe it as wicking water like a greek mans afro, if you know what i mean. Kind of beads up. very resistant to wind, but i'm almost feeling like since it's denser, i'm 'hearing' the actual material when high gusts hit it, not that it's letting wind through but it's creating a contact sound... I will endeavor to post both. I have pianissimo and piano, the pianissimo with CCM41 I have set one setting from the front, and the 'new' greek fur, and it does quite well in high winds, but not nearly as well as my CMIT in the piano. Edited May 26, 2015 by Prahlad Strickland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margus Jukkum Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I have all 3 furs and the water resistant cover. For most normal situations up to fairly breezy days I use the shorter hair. Lately I've been working with some storm chasers and been in some tornado situations where the winds get crazy heavy to the point I have trouble hanging on to the boom. In these situations I must say the heavy fur stands up very well and I've been able to capture significant bits of sound without the constant rumble I was hearing with my Rycote windjammers. For heavy wind I think Cinela is the only way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
api Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 The heavy fur works very well in rain too, I have noticed… as a sort of an umbrella to protect the inner structure and microphone itself from water. There appears to be no damage out of water exposure. Dry it out and you are good to go again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinout Weebers Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 I use my Piano 2S with a CMIT and CCM41, MS pair. I only have the short fur wind jammer, but most of the time the neoprene cover is enough. And the clarity of the system is fantastic. It really does right to the mic's. With my old rycote system I was used to getting wind in the figure 8 mic faster then the CMIT. I figure because of the proximiy of the 8 capsule to the basket. With the Piano the figure 8, until now, never caught wind..... knock on wood... Hard wind sometimes is just audible, but only by swooshing past the system/boom, not by hitting the membrane. This swooshing past the system, does anyone notice a difference between the short and the long fur jammers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 As I said before using the really short hair with ms mkh 30/8040 the dpa 4017 and an mkh50 all with wonderful results with short hair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahlad Strickland Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I've found the new polyester wind cover a mixed bag. A bonus to it though is it repels water really well and does a good job softening the sound of rain. It stops wind really well, but has a sound in heavier wind. I think it's to dense and not loose enough so it's almost like having a thick foam cover over a SM58, if you blow into a SM58 windsock it's the sound of the wind hitting it. The skunk one is the most efficient I think in heavier winds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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