jwill Posted April 20, 2014 Report Posted April 20, 2014 Hello brain trust here at JW Sound ...I know it has been discussed... I know its very personal... and depends..(Senator)...but I am going to make the leap to 633. I ran all my Lectro Receivers at line level in my 552 and 302 and 442. I know the 633 is limited in this regard! My questions, i will be using a Lectro SRB and 2 smvs as my eng setup...adding 2 Lectro 411s' as my EFP setup with SMQVs'. I envision (advice & suggestions) running the SRB in Ch 5 & 6 as line level (where I like to run my lectros) and when I add the 411s' run one in ch 4 at line and the other in ch 3 at mic level...leaving ch 1 & 2 as mic level 48 v powered for hand mics re 50 & MKH 416 & 50. That seems to ME to be, the way...MHO. Bag question... do I jump into Sting Ray...take the basic kit bag from Porta Brace or wait for the orca? Any other thoughts or opinions...please KHW Quote
Jon Gilbert Posted April 20, 2014 Report Posted April 20, 2014 Why run the CH3 one at mic level? Quote
jwill Posted April 20, 2014 Author Report Posted April 20, 2014 I looked at specs and SD says all line or 456 line and 123 mic, can it do ch 3 4 5 6 line and 1 2 mic? Quote
Marc Wielage Posted April 20, 2014 Report Posted April 20, 2014 You can switch all inputs of the 633 to line if you want. I tend to go to "0" on the outputs of the 411's, because I think the position of the pots makes more sense (at a glance) to me, but you could theoretically go +4 without any problem if the gain staging was set up right. Quote
jwill Posted April 21, 2014 Author Report Posted April 21, 2014 Marc then no boom input or hand mic? or set as you go kinda situation? Quote
Jaymz Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 The first three inputs are mic/line switchable in any combination. So you can have, 1 : Boom (mic level) 2 : Handheld (mic level) 3-6 : Lavs (line level) Quote
Boomboom Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 ...and all that's got mic input got phantom power or even line+12v as kind of a custom option for extreme loud sounds (drag strips, combat jets, etc). The 3rd line of OP is wrong imo in that you can have line levels on every input on the 633. You're "limited" to 3 mic inputs (302 legacy after all, huh?) but not "limited" in regards to line inputs (hence wireless receivers inputs). In these parameters, any combination you could think of. So routing could indeed be as Jaymz proposes (probably what a lot of us would use as a pattern too ; at least the one I'd use for sure and if the handheld was wireless, I'd use line level for the rx). Fedex drops mine at the door tomorrow; can't wait! I'll see if I change my usual +4-5 411's levels to 0 like Marc does, a remark that makes me more eager to receive it. Quote
afewmoreyears Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 ...and all that's got mic input got phantom power or even line+12v as kind of a custom option for extreme loud sounds (drag strips, combat jets, etc). The 3rd line of OP is wrong imo in that you can have line levels on every input on the 633. You're "limited" to 3 mic inputs (302 legacy after all, huh?) but not "limited" in regards to line inputs (hence wireless receivers inputs). In these parameters, any combination you could think of. So routing could indeed be as Jaymz proposes (probably what a lot of us would use as a pattern too ; at least the one I'd use for sure and if the handheld was wireless, I'd use line level for the rx). Fedex drops mine at the door tomorrow; can't wait! I'll see if I change my usual +4-5 411's levels to 0 like Marc does, a remark that makes me more eager to receive it. Lets hope they don't DROP it at your door...LOL Quote
Marc Wielage Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 Marc then no boom input or hand mic? or set as you go kinda situation? Wireless boom. In truth, trying to do more than 3 inputs is trying, but you can do 6 if you're willing to put up with the 3 "dinky knobs." For 90% of most doco situations, 3 inputs and 4 channels (mix + 3 isos) would work fine. Quote
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 Inputs 4 to 6 are line only. If you want to have mic level you will have to use something like the Kortwich 3 way pre-amp which has mic in and line out. specifically made for the 633. Quote
JWL Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 Get the ktek bag, its great. I regularly run boom on 1 and radios on 2,3,4,5 and have no problems mixing on the little knobs. Just takes a while to get used to. I too came to the 633 from 552 and love it. Jeremy Quote
Jon Gilbert Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 I looked at specs and SD says all line or 456 line and 123 mic, can it do ch 3 4 5 6 line and 1 2 mic? I think you need to re read it. mic/line is individually switchable for inputs 1-3 Quote
studiomprd Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 jwil: " and the other in ch 3 at mic level " ? --sorry I'm late... " I looked at specs and SD says all line or 456 line and 123 mic, can it do ch 3 4 5 6 line and 1 2 mic? " it is in the manual... " Bag question... do I jump into Sting Ray...take the basic kit bag from Porta Brace or wait for the orca? " yes. Quote
jwill Posted April 21, 2014 Author Report Posted April 21, 2014 Senator, I have re read manual...now i see! Brilliant answer on q 2! Love it...Thanks JHW Quote
studiomprd Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) jwil: " Love it...Thanks " try this: I'm going to be picking up my new car tomorrow, how should I adjust the seats, and the mirrors ?? GPS question: Garmin, Magellan, or TomTom ?? Edited April 22, 2014 by studiomprd Quote
Soundwil Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 Inputs 4 to 6 are line only. If you want to have mic level you will have to use something like the Kortwich 3 way pre-amp which has mic in and line out. specifically made for the 633. Thanks Malcolm for that tip. This box should help me with my current setup. Here's a link to the page (wish I could speak German!) http://www.filmtontechnik.de/613.html Quote
bralleput Posted April 21, 2014 Report Posted April 21, 2014 "I'm going to be picking up my new car tomorrow, how should I adjust the seats, and the mirrors ?? GPS question: Garman, Magellan, or Tom-Tom ??" Bummer.. now I have to read the manuals of Garmin (with 'i'), Magellan, and TomTom (without'-') AND Mike's new car ( have no idea yet what that is going to be...) in order to be taken serious in this thread...Man oh man.....sigh.. Quote
jwill Posted April 21, 2014 Author Report Posted April 21, 2014 OUCH and Ouch...thanks guys...I deserve it!! JHW Quote
chrismedr Posted April 22, 2014 Report Posted April 22, 2014 Thanks Malcolm for that tip. This box should help me with my current setup. Here's a link to the page (wish I could speak German!) http://www.filmtontechnik.de/613.html what would you like translated? most of the info should be pretty straightforward, like: KORTWICH Mikrofon Vorverstärker 3x Mikrofon IN 3x PH 48V ON/OFF 3x OUT für z.B. SD 633 Line IN 3x Pegelsteller 2x Hirose DC IN und OUT 598 € netto / lieferbar "pegelsteller" basically means gain knobs and "netto" means plus VAT (tax, which people outside of europe probably wouldnt have to pay) nice little unit, i'd be tempted to get a MixPre instead unless i absolutely need 6 mic inputs (instead of 5). ++ c. chris Quote
Boomboom Posted April 22, 2014 Report Posted April 22, 2014 Got mine an hour ago. Went through the menus and started to set the unit (date/time, TC, next production infos for thursday, inputs/outputs...) Now diving into the manual for more infos. Making cables tonight with a glass of wine. Times a great. A beauty, it's a beauty ! Quote
Soundwil Posted April 22, 2014 Report Posted April 22, 2014 what would you like translated? most of the info should be pretty straightforward, like: KORTWICH Mikrofon Vorverstärker 3x Mikrofon IN 3x PH 48V ON/OFF 3x OUT für z.B. SD 633 Line IN 3x Pegelsteller 2x Hirose DC IN und OUT 598 € netto / lieferbar "pegelsteller" basically means gain knobs and "netto" means plus VAT (tax, which people outside of europe probably wouldnt have to pay) nice little unit, i'd be tempted to get a MixPre instead unless i absolutely need 6 mic inputs (instead of 5). ++ c. chris Thanks Chris. I sort of figured out the specs although good to have clarification of the "netto". I had trouble navigating the site as I didn't see an english version option - which I think would be a great idea to have considering the growing popularity of the products listed here. Thanks again, Wil Quote
bralleput Posted April 22, 2014 Report Posted April 22, 2014 Got mine an hour ago. Went through the menus and started to set the unit (date/time, TC, next production infos for thursday, inputs/outputs...) Now diving into the manual for more infos. Making cables tonight with a glass of wine. Times a great. A beauty, it's a beauty ! It will allways be 'boys and toys': funny, and I allways have the same feeling when opening 'the newly arrived box'.Have a good one!David C Quote
bralleput Posted April 22, 2014 Report Posted April 22, 2014 John (OP) just get it over with: buy one and figure out what will be your best setup!Have the same fun Pierre just had! Quote
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