VM Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Thanks. So the TC's rate are different, but each seconds are OK. Good idea to indicate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Beatty Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 15+ hours of life and not a single frame out* This little guy is going to come in really handy. *My Nomad reads the TC from Q28 as -3 frames compared to my TS-C when both devices were hard lined at the start of the test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 My Nomad reads the TC from Q28 as -3 frames compared to my TS-C when both devices were hard lined at the start of the test. The displayed time on that page will lag due the refresh rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 What Jack said. Use the big display (press TC button once) IMG_20140909_094507.jpg 15+ hours of life and not a single frame out* This little guy is going to come in really handy. *My Nomad reads the TC from Q28 as -3 frames compared to my TS-C when both devices were hard lined at the start of the test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Webb Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 NEW BNC Q28 For those who are not aware, we just brought out a new version with a BNC. Price is just $439. Shipping started - Yesterday Top features (which are same as Q28) Incredible small size and weight (2.8 cubic inches & 1.9 ounces) Especially wide range variable level output - 54db Combines audio with timecode for devices not intended for timecode (DSLR’s) Locking Connectors - both BNC & 3.5mm are locking Durable Case - designed for durability we have run trucks over it. 2-year warranty and made in U.S.A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Wynne Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Got to use the BNC28 the last couple days. Loved the size, jammed fine, sent out TC fine via the audio output on the 3.5mm output. However the BNC would not jam the C300, tried power cycling etc. Finally gave up and jammed it from my 633 with no issues not using the synch box. Any ideas? One thought was maybe the output level was too hot ( it was at 0 ) causing it to over modulate the TC in of the c300. But that would not be fun because it needs to be at 0 to be jammed from the 3.5 mm Or maybe it's a bad unit or BNC cable. Will test more tomorrow and update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBoisseau Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 I believe Mozegear told me that if you want to "match" the same level of the Deneke devices, set the output level of the unit to the "10 o'clock position. That has been helpfull for me. You might want to give it a try Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Wynne Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Thanks Tom, and after some experimentation that was indeed the issue. One click to the left of 0 is the only setting you can trust for BNC out from my findings actually. What is interesting is what the TC is doing at any other output level. Here's a quick video demonstration of this. https://youtu.be/b50rPhaHsCE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Thanks Tom, and after some experimentation that was indeed the issue. One click to the left of 0 is the only setting you can trust for BNC out from my findings actually. What is interesting is what the TC is doing at any other output level. Here's a quick video demonstration of this. https://youtu.be/b50rPhaHsCE That's really interesting..... and I wonder if I was having a similar result when feeding a PIX 240 from an ERX. It would get the right TC, but sometimes fluttered between it thinking the incoming TC was 23.98 and 24. The PIX records at what you set it to do, so it was never an issue. Just looked questionable on the display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Wynne Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 That's really interesting..... and I wonder if I was having a similar result when feeding a PIX 240 from an ERX. It would get the right TC, but sometimes fluttered between it thinking the incoming TC was 23.98 and 24. The PIX records at what you set it to do, so it was never an issue. Just looked questionable on the display. So I think a good question now would be is this behavior specific to the BNC & or Lemo output or is it also possible that it's behaving the same way out of the 3.5 mm TC audio out, I think I'll do a TC audio synch check with the varying outputs next. Also just a disclaimer I am very impressed with the functionality and small size of this unit my intention is to understand more how varying timecode output levels affect the source being jammed / fed TC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomboom Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Michael, if I'm understanding you right about that: ''One thought was maybe the output level was too hot ( it was at 0 ) causing it to over modulate the TC in of the c300. But that would not be fun because it needs to be at 0 to be jammed from the 3.5 mm'' ...the solution to avoid changing your level constantly would be that: ''To answer the questions/comments regarding resetting the output level --- The Q28 was designed to avoid continuously having to reset the output level when using the 3.5mm audio input as the jam input. Once you set your output level it is saved automatically, then you can just leave the Q28 set until you reset it again. Since most people work with a similar output level, it probably won't need to be reset very often. This leaves the Q28 just waiting to be jammed. For other people reading this thread who may not be familiar with the Q28, I will list the steps to set and save your output level: Set the output level desired Automatically save the setting by turning the Q28 off and then moving the output level control to 0. Now turn the Q28 on If you leave your output level in the 0 position, your previously "saved level" will remain the same and saved for future use. The 3.5mm will be ready to jam and the output doesn’t have to be reset. Please note that the output level controls the output on the BNC, Lemo and the 3.5mm. '' .. from there: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBoisseau Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 So I think a good question now would be is this behavior specific to the BNC & or Lemo output or is it also possible that it's behaving the same way out of the 3.5 mm TC audio out, I think I'll do a TC audio synch check with the varying outputs next. Also just a disclaimer I am very impressed with the functionality and small size of this unit my intention is to understand more how varying timecode output levels affect the source being jammed / fed TC I'm guessing the output levels of the 1/8" mini and the BNC are the same, but don't know that as a fact. For what it is worth however, when I mentioned that Mosegear recommends a "10 o'clock" position to match the output level of the Deneke devices, I was refering to the Q28 with the 1/8'" output. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBoisseau Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Also, I always use the lemo to jam from the ouutput of my SD 664/633 to the TIG Q28, but then use the 1/8' connector to output to the camera. By doing it this way I can simply leave the pot at the 10 o'clock position and (almost) never change it. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted April 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 I jam via a oneway lemo cable into TIG28, then use another one way lemo to bnc philp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Same, no issues (almost none, probably operator error!) I jam via a oneway lemo cable into TIG28, then use another one way lemo to bnc philp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtown Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 been using the mozegear tig 28 for a year and half , and its a great product... but Ive Been on about 4 or 5 different shoots with ALEXA MINI BODY cam, and I've been getting TC error, camera doesn't take the jam ("TC" turns ORANGE)... this only happens to me with the ALEXA MINI . I end up having to jam form the denecke slate and keeping my eye on it all day, rejamming every so often. Anyone else out there having this issue? This has been on a bunch of different shoots, as I see more of these MINIs out there.. The TIG works great with every other camera I've used it with though.. alexa, amira, sony, red, etc... just the mini body ....weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan chiles Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Also had issues with the Alexa Mini and the TIG. It would jam sometimes and other times not. I need to do some more tests with the mini, but it seems to be fussy for some reason or other (firmware?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 On 8/14/2014 at 6:39 PM, Boomboom said: Thanks for the review, now I'm even more glad I ordered one I might add another one while the special launch-promo price is there. So many gigs with C300s+all kinds of rigs (or just the Canon handle) and 5Ds these days it will be hard to resist ! I have 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomsound Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 The script super asked me to jam her iPad Pro with TC. She's using Movie Slate. I used a standard mini stereo to stereo, but couldn't get it to jam. Has anyone done this with success? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 24 minutes ago, boomsound said: The script super asked me to jam her iPad Pro with TC. She's using Movie Slate. I used a standard mini stereo to stereo, but couldn't get it to jam. Has anyone done this with success? Thanks. You need a special cable (padded) with a special connection (trrs) I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted February 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 Were you using a Q28 that has a mini output or via BNC or Lemo? Most problems I've had turned out to be me either having a one-way cable the wrong way around or a connector issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomsound Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 I used the mini output to the headphone in jack on the iPad. Scripty asked if I could do it and I wanted to find out. I thought you could use the stereo cable for a DSLR, so I tried it and adjusted the output level of the Tig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 http://ambient.de/en/product/itc5-inl/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomsound Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 Thanks Jason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Andrews Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 My TIG Q28 worked very well for the first 18 odd months. Now it randomly loses it's TC Jam and resets to 0. Have ditched it for my current job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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