chris_bollard Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-08/undeclared-batteries-sparked-plane-fire-at-melbourne-airport3a/5728574 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkautzsch Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 That's why Lithium batteries aren't allowed in checked baggage. Imagine this had happened over the Pacific. Let's hope they will be stricter in enforcing the existing rules (No batteries in checked baggage, limited amount in cabin baggage) as we know them and have adjusted to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 I've spoken to a lot of people who are very cavalier about checking lithium batteries. The regulations are there for a good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_bollard Posted September 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I've spoken to a lot of people who are very cavalier about checking lithium batteries. Better to do the right thing and carry them on - imagine how embracing it would be for the airline to X-ray your cases and find them. Your name is called after you have boarded the flight. You then delay take off while you get your lithium batts out and do a walk of shame back on to the full aircraft with the other passengers blaming you for their delay. This happens..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkautzsch Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 delay take off while you get your lithium batts out and do a walk of shame back on to the full aircraft with the other passengers blaming you for their delay. Waiting on SOOOUUUND!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWilson Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Better to do the right thing and carry them on - imagine how embracing it would be for the airline to X-ray your cases and find them. Your name is called after you have boarded the flight. You then delay take off while you get your lithium batts out and do a walk of shame back on to the full aircraft with the other passengers blaming you for their delay. This happens..... This happened only a few weeks ago to the DOP I was travelling with. I always carry mine on board. Ended up lending my V-Locks until his got couriered to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Mega Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Any one know how many IDX NPL7S can be taken on board as carry on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldmixer Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 All of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Better to do the right thing and carry them on - imagine how embracing it would be for the airline to X-ray your cases and find them. Your name is called after you have boarded the flight. You then delay take off while you get your lithium batts out and do a walk of shame back on to the full aircraft with the other passengers blaming you for their delay. This happens..... I think some people have had stories that they arrived at their destination and the batteries had been pulled out of their luggage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindrop Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I've spoken to a lot of people who are very cavalier about checking lithium batteries. The regulations are there for a good reason. I've heard that some airlines implement a $75,000 dollar fine. That could focus a slack attitude somewhat, and may be worse than any walk of shame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refine Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Many of the drone batteries used today don't have a plastic container/housing, and consist of the cells wrapped in a thin film and then folded/glued, to reduce size/weight. The attached wiring usually terminates in several small molex type connectors that can easily shear off in handling/transport resulting in the battery terminals shorting. Fortunately most gold mount and IDX type batteries have much sturdier packaging and battery terminals. frail drone battery examples: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_bollard Posted September 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Hi Pete Checkout the CASA flyer: http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_assets/main/dg/luggage/brochure.pdf In summary - always carry on & up to 100WHrs MAX There seems to be no limit as to the number of these batteries you can carry on board tho the max carry on weight may come into play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Not sure if it helps, but I have the regs printed out and in my bag with the batteries. I'm currently using the B4B batteries, and their site lists their battery models and how many grams of lithium are in each one. My understanding is that the capacity is the guideline, but grams of lithium is what makes it a battery that can/can't be carried on an airplane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 I was looking at the US TSA regs though. Not sure if there are some countries that allow significantly less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lightstone, CAS Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 The irony of all this is Boeing's 787 Dreamliner use Lithium-Ion batteries for it's electrical system. Remember all the problems they had with the first roll out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 This goes back to JAN 1 2008. Nothing new... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkautzsch Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Can't imagine that any country has stricter rules than TSA's. Though it seems most international airports worldwide have adopted TSA rules so people can still fly into the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 When you fly to the US every airport have to follow the TSA guidelines. Any other flight will obay the final destination requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 And, having tried to board an internal flight in Buenos Aries, we weren't allowed to take any of our batteries on the flight. Security insisted we try and out them in the hold, check in flat out refused. Fortunately we were able to get the batteries on their way to us via ground transport. Hopefully to arrive in the next hour. With us travelling with 14 NP1's, 6 BPU and 160 AA's, it's lucky that we had the time and option to get the batteries on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 PK: " stricter rules than TSA's " in USA: there is TSA, and there is FAA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeheel Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 ANA airlines (Japan) made us carry every battery we had (including alkaline and NiMh) into the cabin. We were prepared to carry the lithiums, but the stack of AA's was a bit of an unwelcome surprise. Cheers, Brent Calkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_bollard Posted September 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Good idea to carry a copy of the regulations covering what is and isn't allowed so you can show present it if the uniforms at the airport say you can't carry your batts on board. The confusion usually comes from a imprecise understanding of the rules at a regional airport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Yep but how many film/tv crews are flying locally or internationally every day with Lith-ion Also what about laptop computers??? mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 The bigger danger is a loose LiIon battery shorting the terminals. A laptop battery (or similar) is pretty stable in its housing. That's why people like us carrying a bunch of loose batteries are the bigger risk. That's also why you are supposed to gaff tape the terminals, even carrying them on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) chris: " Good idea to carry a copy of the regulations covering what is and isn't allowed so you can show present it if the uniforms at the airport say you can't carry your batts on board. " while it is a positive idea, do not be surprised when "officials" discount any document you provide and show them. (after all, you are the enemy!) Edited October 1, 2014 by studiomprd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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