Devendra Cleary Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Hey JWSound! I'm on the search for some old sound cart images. I have several from Jeff himself already, but I'm specifically looking for some images of small Nagra/Sela mixer combo rigs and the more minimalist the better. Google Images isn't bringing up what I have in mind, so if anyone here has something in their archives and wouldn't mind sharing with me please send me a PM. Best, Devendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Hey Devendra, I have an old Sela and 3 Nagras I can shoot for you, but if it's the historical rig & Cart of yesteryear on location then I'm not sure if I have any. I will look. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Ha! Better than a bed pan. Love the picture. Probably the last time we ever set up in front of the camera. Good find RVD... CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devendra Cleary Posted September 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Thanks RVD! Thanks Crew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ao Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Here's CrewC and I on a commercial in 1977. My favorite "sound cart" a hospital bed tray, for dining. Sela with Nagra on top. my favourite aspect of this combo was being able to lift the nagra and sela mixer in one piece off a cart and onto a car rig. not sure if I have snappies either. will dive into my archives next month, when I am back home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Devendra, I don't know if you already have these images from me, both show Nagra on the Sela Mixer. "Sound Asleep" on "Coming Home" "Bound For Glory" --- just about the whole crew can be seen in this shot including the late great Pat Suraci on the Fisher Boom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devendra Cleary Posted September 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 These are perfect guys. Jeff, I didn't have these on the card you have me so thanks of posting them here! Trying to find that perfect image of a Nagra/Sela combo on a mini cart of yesteryear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Another blast from the past. Guessing 1978/79. Obviously on location, L 2 R is Tom Stern, then an electrician, now a major league Cameraman, (Those are Arc Lights)... Jane Hampton, a great script supervisor, Roger Daniell, aka "The Godfather" of modern commercial mixers. He did more to get our rates and rules in place than all the rest. Also a great guy. Cooler than the other side of the pillow. He killed them with kindness and taught me all the non sound rules for the business. And then a young me at the side of the master. Between us on the simple cart of the day is the standard back then. A Nagra 4.2 on a Sela mixer. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 And is that a Nagra DH speaker on the bottom shelf of the cart? I loved the Nagra/Sela combo--it inspired confidence (and sounded great). philp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 You are correct Philip. This was how we played back a scene before video assist got in the game. Everyone would listen to a take back around the sound cart. It didn't happen often but enough that the built in speaker wasn't enough. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 And is that a Nagra DH speaker on the bottom shelf of the cart? I loved the Nagra/Sela combo--it inspired confidence (and sounded great). philp Phillip I think that it's a bit before the DH. I don't know the exact model but in the UK we knew it as a Thunder Box. I had two DH units and they were hellish expensive. They occasionally come up on Ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Definitely a DH loudspeaker in the picture. Not before its time and yes, they were very expensive. Very rugged metal enclosure, all discreet components hand-wired, reasonably good sound for a small portable battery powered speaker. It even had a function selector for control, very similar (if not the same) as the Nagra III recorder. I do think it is the original DH in the picture, not the DH Type II which came out much later and matched more the styling and design of the Nagra 4 series recorders. It too was very expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrd456 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Yes, that is a DH-----I had one just like it back then. J.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Pictured below is original Nagra DH companion for the Nagra III. Later, Nagra released the DSM which was the successor to the DH (and I guess did a whole lot more than just a speaker). Pictured below is the model that was a fully loaded DSM. I never owned either of the DSMs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Excuse the partial hijack of this topic. We can get back to talking about the Nagra/Sela setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Sela at one point had made a more full size mixing desk, something along the lines of 8 channels or so with linear faders. Anyone have pictures of this mythical beast or more information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Roger had the original DH. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Sela at one point had made a more full size mixing desk, something along the lines of 8 channels or so with linear faders. Anyone have pictures of this mythical beast or more information? I can't find any pictures but I do remember this larger Sela mixer. Audio Services (I think not yet LSC) told Sela that they needed to build a bigger mixing panel if they wanted to stay in the game. Lots of design ideas were passed back and forth, it took Sela quite some time to build it and when it finally arrived it was a bit of a disaster. A combination of too many cooks ("designers") dictating too many of the wrong things, I think it was a product that was DOA. I think they sold maybe two of them and soon after that the company (Sela) went out of business. I believe David Macmillan purchased one and used it for several years. I was certainly looking forward to it until it actually showed up --- then I was not so interested in the way it was doing certain things and it was very expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Rose Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Sublime to ridiculous, but at least it's a sync recorder on top of a mixer... Dubbing setup: Arrivox-Tandberg, Allen & Heath Mini, custom switching, heavily modified A77. The furry operator on the left is me. It was 1971... a few years before I could afford an actual Nagra. Note the 'Trim Bin' clips on the wall. I loved the idea of a bin with overhead pin rack when I was cutting film, so came up with this for 1/4" tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Later, Nagra released the DSM which was the successor to the DH (and I guess did a whole lot more than just a speaker). Pictured below is the model that was a fully loaded DSM. I never owned either of the DSMs. Wow, that looks like a total resolver/playback station -- very cool. I can see where that would've been handy for dailies. I never saw a Nagra III or 4S with a resolver in the 1980s; by that time, we were using the Nagra T, circa 1987-1988, which would've replaced it. I can't find any pictures but I do remember this larger Sela mixer. Audio Services (I think not yet LSC) told Sela that they needed to build a bigger mixing panel if they wanted to stay in the game. Lots of design ideas were passed back and forth, it took Sela quite some time to build it and when it finally arrived it was a bit of a disaster. A combination of too many cooks ("designers") dictating too many of the wrong things, I think it was a product that was DOA. I think they sold maybe two of them and soon after that the company (Sela) went out of business. Where was Sela based? Were they also out of Switzerland, or in France? Those were beautiful mixers for their time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 I believe it was Sweden. (Hoping I didn't put foot in mouth and was actually Finland) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Definitely Sweden. Also, I did locate one very small image of the larger Sela Mixer (pictured below): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pverrando Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 I recently restored an early Sela mixer. It has an ID plate from American Zoetrope: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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