L7NirvanaLove Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Which mic is better to purchase for location sound I'll probably be doing more motion picture stuff. Ntg3 or Mkh416? Other suggestions are welcome as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfw Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 I'm probably the worst person on here to respond about "location" sound but I happen to love microphones so I'll jump in. The big question before you decide on any mic is what is it going to be used for? And the reality to this is, every pro owns multiple mics specifically for the right environment, situation, voice and instrument (studio stuff). I was going to post my totally non-veteran opinions based on what I've used but there are better people here for that info. The thing I will post is this: http://homerecording.com/bbs/equipment-forums/microphones/how-does-diaphragm-size-polar-pattern-relate-mic-applications-27030/ 97 forums pages where Harvey Gerst walks you through different mic types, polar patterns, freq curves, circuits, etc. Grab a beer and read this before you buy any microphone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L7NirvanaLove Posted November 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 I'm probably the worst person on here to respond about "location" sound but I happen to love microphones so I'll jump in. The big question before you decide on any mic is what is it going to be used for? And the reality to this is, every pro owns multiple mics specifically for the right environment, situation, voice and instrument (studio stuff). I was going to post my totally non-veteran opinions based on what I've used but there are better people here for that info. The thing I will post is this: http://homerecording.com/bbs/equipment-forums/microphones/how-does-diaphragm-size-polar-pattern-relate-mic-applications-27030/ 97 forums pages where Harvey Gerst walks you through different mic types, polar patterns, freq curves, circuits, etc. Grab a beer and read this before you buy any microphone. Thanks I'll definitely take a look. I am mostly going to focus on capturing dialogue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigF Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 The 416 is the mic that will not die off and do not brake easily Every time I have tried a Rode product it ether arives damaged or brakes shortly after it's arival Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 MKH 416 - tried and tested dialogue capturer NTG3 - less so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Every time I have tried a Rode product it ether arives damaged or brakes shortly after it's arival That's not my experience at all. In fact, the opposite, their gear is quite robust. The NTG3 even comes in a strong aluminium cylinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismedr Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 i've gone through similar thoughts myself whenever i'm looking for a mic - the short story is it probably doesn't really matter, but i like gear and thinking about it each of them has some pros and cons, and you just have decide what it important to you. other mics which are similar are: Sennheiser MKH 60 Sennheiser MKH 8060 Sanken CS3e Schoeps CMIT 5U Neumann KMR-81 if you search for there you'll find a lot of pros and cons, in the end i bought a 416 because i figured for the type of stuff i do my skills are the weakest link compared to any of these mics chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkautzsch Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Any of these will work fine if you know how to use their individual properties. Get one and get yourself accustomed to it so you know its strenghts and weaknesses. In the end it's not about the arrows, but about the archer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Cs3e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Wong Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Hers a short list of mics with some attributes 416 will last forever. Bp4073 on a budget Cs3e great problem solver Scheops cmit simply awesome. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrd456 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 416 is probably the best for the price and the least susceptible to RF and moisture. J.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 If you buy a 416 today - you will have that same mic when you retire. You will add additional mics to your collection - but you will always have that 416. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bralleput Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 For the record: Sennheiser no longer produces the MKH 416.Parts will be hard to get at some point..I don't understand why they stopped producing such a workhorse while they still make the MD 421 and MD 21 (dynamic workhorses!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McL Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 If you buy a 416 today - you will have that same mic when you retire. You will add additional mics to your collection - but you will always have that 416. I'm a living example of that. First pieces of kit I bought were the 416 I used daily until two years ago, a short pole, cable and Zeppelin. Eventually two of 'em that still rest in the drawer waiting for another day in the sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Karlsson Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 For the record: Sennheiser no longer produces the MKH 416.Parts will be hard to get at some point..I don't understand why they stopped producing such a workhorse while they still make the MD 421 and MD 21 (dynamic workhorses!) Who told you that? http://en-us.sennheiser.com/short-gun-tube-microphone-camera-films-mkh-416-p48u3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afewmoreyears Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 This must be the 643rd thread on this subject... at least... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bralleput Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Who told you that? http://en-us.sennheiser.com/short-gun-tube-microphone-camera-films-mkh-416-p48u3 Local audio-for-film vendors.(and we have 3 of them in Amsterdam) I guess they are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramallo Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 I'm using the DPA 4017C I'm very happy with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Local audio-for-film vendors.(and we have 3 of them in Amsterdam) I guess they are right. The 416 has been pronounced dead before. Last time, it was when the 8060 was introduced, supposedly the successor. But they still list is as current and even if they did end it they would still repair it for a long time. Neumann still "repairs" mics that 40 or more years old. If true, now would be a good time to buy one, because prices on used 416s may well rise then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyfoxx Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 CS3-e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 The 416 has been pronounced dead before. Last time, it was when the 8060 was introduced, supposedly the successor. But they still list is as current and even if they did end it they would still repair it for a long time. Neumann still "repairs" mics that 40 or more years old. If true, now would be a good time to buy one, because prices on used 416s may well rise then In my memory it was when they released the MKH60. Users spoke up and they un-discontinued the MKH416. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 In the end it's not about the arrows, but about the archer. I've heard this before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwill Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 I have owned a 416 since 1982 and it has never let me down....EVER. I have 3 now and i dare anyone to tell me the difference in sound between the three! MHO JHW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 This must be the 643rd thread on this subject... at least... Does it matter? The guy is asking a genuine question!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent R. Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 In defense of the NTG3: worked with it in harsh conditions, from wet and hot to cold and dry, minus 15 to plus 45 (60 plus in sauna) Celsius. Didn't let me down. Own one since 2008 or 2009. Never had a problem, except once, when a screw came a bit loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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