soundtrane Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 I'll try to get more infos from François Musy as it appears he told this to Jacques after some tests he did with the R4+. Obviously some translation issues here. Monsigneur Musy is a veteran sound mixer (he has been around since 1980s and has worked with JLG), so he definitely must have said something that makes sense when translated well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismedr Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Obviously some translation issues here. Monsigneur Musy is a veteran sound mixer (he has been around since 1980s and has worked with JLG), so he definitely must have said something that makes sense when translated well. well, the above totally makes sense to me.... if sound is converted linearly by an ADC and then mapped linearly to a file, the top 6db will have *a lot* more values (or resolution) in it then the bottom 6db. lets take an 8bit ACD and file as example, with a signal of 48db coming in: the top 6db of that file would have 7bit, or half (128) of the total available values (8bit = 256), while the bottom 6db would only have 1bit, or 2 values. now if the file would be log encoded then this would change, but since i believe all common ADC circuits operate on a linear level that only would help if you had an ADC with very very high bit depth (and virtually no noise). at least that's the way it is with digital image sensors, so it seems reasonable for digital sound too (unless somebody invented a logarithmic microphone : ) chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 http://sonosax.ch/news/SONONEWS_2015_07_EN.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) Having a wonder about this box as potential additional outputs for comms with the dante option. There's GPIO control (and quite a lot of DSP control options in there) so you could potentially run switch(es) to engage comms to mix with outputs. It seems to be small and it can be powered from PoEhttp://www.stagetec.com.au/dioDon't know about price point yetDelec also do the same thing Edited July 19, 2015 by Richard Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Having a wonder about this box as potential additional outputs for comms with the dante option. There's GPIO control (and quite a lot of DSP control options in there) so you could potentially run switch(es) to engage comms to mix with outputs. It seems to be small and it can be powered from PoEhttp://www.stagetec.com.au/dioDon't know about price point yetDelec also do the same thing Actually it won't mix in the box, so no good for comms- was worth a go. The bigger Delec NIO 204 will, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Having a wonder about this box as potential additional outputs for comms with the dante option. There's GPIO control (and quite a lot of DSP control options in there) so you could potentially run switch(es) to engage comms to mix with outputs. It seems to be small and it can be powered from PoEhttp://www.stagetec.com.au/dioDon't know about price point yetDelec also do the same thing Or a cheap and dirty solution offered to me by Paul Paragon for additional outputs on a Cantar X1 / X2, would be to connect an AES3 output from the Sonosax through a Neutrix NADITBNC-FX (http://www.thomann.de/gb/neutrik_naditbncfx_aesebu_bncadapter.htm) transformer so AES is converted to SPDIF, and then for monitoring feeds, comms etc you could use a Lindy DA converter http://www.lindy.co.uk/audio-video-c2/converters-scalers-c105/audio-spdif-analogue-dacs-c106/spdif-dac-pro-with-phono-outputs-p7011 or others on Amazon / eBay for £12. I am not suggesting it is the highest fidelity but has its uses. Tim Screen Shot 2015-07-22 at 20.55.02.pdf Screen Shot 2015-07-22 at 20.54.36.pdf Screen Shot 2015-07-22 at 18.56.23.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 thanks Tim, they look a bit more compact (and cheaper) than my current AES conversion solution, which is a couple of AJA ADA4s. Still don't know any more details about the option connectors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.paterson Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'd love to hear back from some of the testers. My big question and will dictate whether buying is an option is if the 6 pots Inc 5/6 line inputs can work as faders to a stereo Mix bus and not just as level controlls and if all pots are closed iso tracks still recording prefader trim, I still have a feeling specifically 5/6 pots are only level controls hoping I'm wrong..also be great if all analogue inputs had facility to add delay to input ..didn't put a deposit down because I'm still not sure if the unit on its own will act like a regular mixer ie pots acting as faders....Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 As far as the block diagram goes 5+6 are analogue pots on the inputs so unless it's been changed hardware-wise they won't work as faders while still being able to record isos on those channels. I've told Sonosax it's really important for me (and a number of other mixers) to be able to make fader adjustments to the mix using the 4 digital controllers on the front (and this is how I'd mainly like to use the machine). Are any of the sonosax beta testers here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Lindy DA converter http://www.lindy.co.uk/audio-video-c2/converters-scalers-c105/audio-spdif-analogue-dacs-c106/spdif-dac-pro-with-phono-outputs-p7011 SESCOM really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 SESCOM really... Or Gefen--all from the same factory in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAX Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 ....production in process, deliveries start tomorrow! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef Albertyn Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 GREAT! - Best news I've had in a long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Excellent news! Wonder if mine's in there? What's the blue part under the battery compartment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Looks like an PCB that holds the headphone out and the AES amp connector. Edited August 28, 2015 by RadoStefanov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlempen Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Hey Richard, The blue part sticking out underneath the battery compartment is the WLAN Antenna, which has a rubber cover when the unit's assembled. Cheers, Jürg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Do a pair of these link up (cascade)? Also - is there still special pricing since obviously it took them a while to get them out - and how long does that pricing last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Hey Richard, The blue part sticking out underneath the battery compartment is the WLAN Antenna, which has a rubber cover when the unit's assembled. Cheers, Jürg Thanks Jürg. AB, as far as I know the special pricing stopped at the end of July. I've been told mine's ready for dispatch today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 ....production in process, deliveries start tomorrow! Cheers chaseeIt seam like there is opening between the chasee and the battery compartment. What about dirt getting inside the unit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef Albertyn Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Xmas came early this year!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Did you get covers for the SD cards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef Albertyn Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 No - no covers. Here are some pics with the recorder inside one of the new K-Tek Stingray juniors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef Albertyn Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Rado I Emailed Pierre about the covers. They were not happy with the fit of the ones they had made and are re-doing them, and will send them out as soon as possible. Not a big deal for me - I will make a neat gaffer tape flap in the meantime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Did you get covers for the SD cards? I've got that combination on the way too, how come you got either so quickly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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