Jeff Wexler Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 I just saw this on Zaxcom's site --- looks like Zaxcom will be changing the game, again, when Deva 32 is released. Hopefully by NAB we'll get a look at this. ZAXCOM.COM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanross Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 I hope it comes in different colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmgoodin Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Hummm... That spherical shape doesn't seem very practical. And that glowing illumination is going to kill the battery life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 At least I see a new GUI. Thanks for this (or that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) is it too early to begin redesigning it..? silly me, here on jwsoundgroup.net it is never too early, or too late, to redesign gear.... OK, I'll start play: 32 isn't enough!! and over in another thread we can complain that there is not enough information being given out... Edited December 12, 2014 by studiomprd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted December 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Well, Courtney has already commented that the round shape is not too practical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 no time to discuss about the new RX12 that we're just moving on the new Deva... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 I think Zaxcom has taken seriously our recommendations / thoughts in XZ ways (here, via email, via face to face contact etc). Whatever is going to be the new Deva; will serve our industry with enough features. For God's sake do not focusing about how many inputs will be. Will be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Wonder if they'll have a new control surface to go with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted December 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 no time to discuss about the new RX12 that we're just moving on the new Deva... Who told you that you couldn't discuss the RX-12? I don't think it really taxes our multi-tasking skills to talk about a few things at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhobbit Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 If it glows that much, the grips with encase the sound department in a sea of flags. Where ever I stand on set, a flag or light soon grows. Scott.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Who told you that you couldn't discuss the RX-12? I don't think it really taxes our multi-tasking skills to talk about a few things at the same time. Sorry Jeff, I was just kidding Maybe my english didn't serve me well this time. Just trying to say that we haven't the time to be excited with an upcoming piece of gear that an other one is coming out so soon. I'm very happy with that, since I'm a Zaxcom user, and I'll be in both discussions of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted December 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 @vale: Great! I look forward to all the discussions --- after all, this IS a discussion group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Makes sense--I bet there will eventually be a Deva 64, maybe with Dante etc. philp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Exciting! I'm ready to be blown away (I hope). Wonder if the 32 is for card tracks? Hope it has Dante or Madi or both. I will be at NAB next year, so I'm hoping I get to see it then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bralleput Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 32 tracks!! Do we need that?When/where is there a situation where we have use for 32 tracks: OK when we want the 'score and fx' be recorded on set....?Seems overkill to me?! I'm sorry for pic and audio post.....in this case... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 The Audinate Brooklyn chipset inherently supports 32x32 I/O @ 96KHz, so would seem foolish to not just simply support that pipeline if it is Dante based. What would be foolish is to build build it with 32 expensive preamps and price it out of many people's reach, since the "target market" is production sound people, who generally can get by with much less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted December 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Sound Devices 970 does 64 tracks, is that true? I think there has always been a bit of competitiveness going on "my recorder has more tracks than your recorder" and I agree with you that there are very few situations where any of us doing the sorts of jobs we do will need 32 tracks. I'm still in shock that there are so many jobs now that pretty much require the full use of all 8 tracks that most of the recorders have had up until now. In today's world where everyone seems to have fallen in love with everybody being wired, the isos have become even more important. My hope is that what we have seen on the biggest TV shows, 16 inputs and 16 tracks, will be the standard for those types of jobs, and having 32, 48, or 64 tracks available is just overkill. The only real significance, I believe, is that it is a bigger number --- and we all know that bigger is better, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 "Spring 2015" Any wagers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Could be a perfect machine for live music recording. They might be looking at the market the JoeCo is filling with high track count, small format recorders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudRaymond Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Announced Spring 2015, delivered Summer 2016 at best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 http://soundandpicture.com/2014/12/hobbit-production-sound-perspective/ Sound’s more challenging days came when Jackson worked with the slave motion control system. It’s a complex setup that allows characters of different sizes to do a scene together at the same time. It was used when a character like Gandalf had to talk to the dwarves or Bilbo. What happens is two adjoining sets are constructed – a fully dressed set and the other a green screen. The master rig is outfitted with encoders that measure the pan, tilt, and motion of the camera dolly underneath. The data is then crunched through software and is instantly relayed to the slave rig on the green screen set, allowing Jackson to see the results of the scene instantly. In order to achieve realism in the scene, the actors had to work off dialogue cues by wearing earwigs, because they couldn’t see each other. “The whole thing was driven by sound. If we messed up or they couldn’t hear the cue to know where to move on set or what their eyeline was, it wouldn’t work…this did happen,” says Johnson. So challenging projects or days like above; high track count is critical. I would not go into the story "how many tracks", but Tom Visser said it well about mic preamps. I think a good way of conversation will be to separate the feature film project, reality tv project, tv drama project and so on. For an average european movie; I think 8 or 16 tracks is enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 "Spring 2015" Any wagers? LOTD. Couldn't help but chuckle. Re: the 32 tracks, while yes, we don't use that many tracks day to day (nor am I encouraging it), there are specific situations where having the high track count is advantageous, and niches where it may even be necessary. In reality / competition shows is not uncommon to see at least 12 - 16 tracks going on at once. I worked on a show a few months ago where the typical track count was 18-20, and there was one day where we even went up to 37. We were a 6-person sound department. It was done with a Yamaha QL5 + Sound Device 970. I became a huge fan of Dante after that. Live music recording could also see a great use of the high track count. I think that Zaxcom addressing such market(s) as well just opens up their product to be that more desirable to as many people as possible. Just my 2 cents. EDIT: Highly agree with Tom Visser's last statement though. It certainly doesn't need 32 pre-amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 On the other news old Deva, Fusion and Mix12 has been discontinued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 On the other news old Deva, Fusion and Mix12 has been discontinued. I wonder then if a new control surface is also in the works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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