Constantin Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 It's a different lav from the smart lav that they have according to their site if you click more info about the mic. It's the mic with easy interchangeable plugs. Yes, but I'm suspecting a bad link here. I bet it's the SmartLav which is included and thus would not conclude that the system itsef must be really cheap. But we shall see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismedr Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Yes, but I'm suspecting a bad link here. I bet it's the SmartLav which is included and thus would not conclude that the system itsef must be really cheap. But we shall see well, in the tech specs they list exactly the same frequency response as the normal rode lav which is different from the smart lav, i doubt they'd make such a mistake since it would cause them trouble. but as you say, we'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caio Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Got this response from Rode: "As you'll see form the web page it does in fact ship with the Rode Lavalier microphone (while it is not included on the web page I would assume it will also ship with the micon-1 adapter in order to be able to connect the LAV to the transmitter)." So it is the Rode Lavalier and the connector is a Sennheiser locking 3.5mm. Regarding the sound, I have seen and used chinese lavalier that sounds better than Rode, Sennheiser ME 2 and even Sanken. Haven't seen one that sounds better than a DPA though. And they are cheap. But they are also much more fragile and less durable. Sometimes price don't change sound quality but almost always changes build quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 I would say the big thing is that Rode is throwing their hat in the wireless mic ring. Not including people like us, they seem to have a definite market of OMB DSLR shooters, bloggers etc. I'm sure those people will find a lot of value in such a product. They don't have the same requirements as us, so who cares. If Rode's new mission in life was to make YouTube videos look & sound better, i would hope somebody gives them an award for just that. Seriously. There's some people posting really interesting stuff on there that's pretty unbearable to watch, but not something with a budget to "do it right". This $400 wireless set is going to sound a lot better than the built-in camera mic. It also sounds like they tried to make it very simple to set up for non-techie people. cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Regarding the sound, I have seen and used chinese lavalier that sounds better than Rode, Sennheiser ME 2 and even Sanken. Haven't seen one that sounds better than a DPA though. And they are cheap. But they are also much more fragile and less durable. Sometimes price don't change sound quality but almost always changes build quality. Tha sounds interesting for backups. Care to share what these Chinese lavs are called and where to get them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 ps: looks like you can get the rode lav for 170EUR over here now. yep, 150 plus VAT at Thomann. The PinMic too, by the way. Hard not to get one of those at that price... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 yep, 150 plus VAT at Thomann. The PinMic too, by the way. Hard not to get one of those at that price... A PinMic is fun to have, can come in handy in all sorts of situations. I have a couple of rhe original Pinmics, too, which even came with brooches and other things to help hide the mic in plain sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Ray Harris Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 At that price could it be a Comtek alternative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomboom Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Nick: that was my first thought. If they ever sell the rxs separately and provided the units can withstand shocks, drops etc, that might be not so bad I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caio Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Tha sounds interesting for backups. Care to share what these Chinese lavs are called and where to get them? I use some JK 044. There is some comparison in youtube. I find it better than the me2. I have used the sanken cos 11d rented and even though they are very good, I found these chinese to be a better match to Sennheiser mics. I will be holding them until I have the cash for DPA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent R. Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 At that price could it be a Comtek alternative?they don't "multicast", aka; you can not use one transmitter with multiple receivers. Keep that in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolo72 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 they don't "multicast", aka; you can not use one transmitter with multiple receivers. Keep that in mind. I didn't know that, thanks. Do you have a reference to information explaining why this is the case ? lisala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent R. Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 I didn't know that, thanks. Do you have a reference to information explaining why this is the case ? lisala Somebody on facebook asked Rode about this and this was their answer. Sorry don't have more info, but it might have something to do with the encrypted transmission they are using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 It looks like there's some sort of back and forth communications, and that's how it can hop channels. It probably couldn't handle multiple receivers telling it different info at the same time. As opposed to our usual Lectrosonics/ Zaxcom / Sennheiser / Comtek etc transmitters transmitting and receiver(s) being able to tune those transmissions. Even with Zaxcom, the Zaxnet remote control of transmitters is done over 2.4GHz, while the audio is sent over UHF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolo72 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Thks people, looks like it's not for me. I was looking at this and the audio technica system 10 for IEM/camera feed. Lisala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 A PinMic is fun to have, can come in handy in all sorts of situations. I have a couple of rhe original Pinmics, too, which even came with brooches and other things to help hide the mic in plain sight. Constantin have you used the PinMic in windy exteriors when in plain sight? Is the grill enough wind protection? Sorry for going OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Constantin have you used the PinMic in windy exteriors when in plain sight? Is the grill enough wind protection? Sorry for going OT. Yes and no. Have used it outside and it is better in windy exteriors than your average lav, but not by much. The mic element that you stick on the pins contains a kind of pop filter. The mic comes with a special furry, but that's rather big. So only for calm ext or int Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Ford Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Christian, who do you think would sue Rode? Sony is the only company I know of that has a similar product with their 2.4 ghz wireless mic set and I don't think Sony would bother to sue Rode. Audio Technica has System 10 that came out in 2014. They now have battery-powered receivers. http://tyfordaudiovideo.blogspot.com/2015/01/audio-technica-system-10-update-more.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent R. Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Are those audio technicas capable of "multi casting" Ty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armin Siegwarth Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Seems AT system 10 is also 1 to 1 as of Freq. Hopping. Great link ty !!! At's stable 125 - 200 ft are really remarkable. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu2 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 It's another piece of crap from the company living from copying and false advertising. Please guys, be reasonable and use professional gear for professional jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Duffy Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Strong claims - what basis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engaudio Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Yeah, please explain copying and false advertising. They make microphones, how many new and radically different (eletronic) designs can you come up? One could argue mbho are a ripoff of schoeps till you find out some the designers are the same , SD has former Shure engineers, where does this stop? I'm no apologist for Rode but buddie you need to back up your claims now.. Grant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armin Siegwarth Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 audio technica bad range - guessed 15m or 49ft: audio technica great range - up to 220ft or 67m: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Feeley Posted February 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Note that Ginsburg regularly works for Audio-Technica. I've only met the guy a couple times, but he doesn't seem to me to be a disinterested source for AT evaluations. Don't know the other guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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