nevo Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Damn you Sound Devices.....Just when I thought I was thru buying gear for the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Trew Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Wonders never cease. I wonder how long the support for 664/633 will take to implement? The CL12 is made for all 6xx series recorders. GT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 I respectfully request the company consider the option of Koa wood given the reference to ancient Hawaiian surf boards - obviously premium price given the expense of Koa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris R Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) The CL12 is made for all 6xx series recorders. GT He was most likely referring to "The CL-12 will be compatible with the 688 upon shipping. Future support for both the 664 and 633 will follow" Edited September 11, 2015 by Chris R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean McCormick Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 He was most likely referring to "The CL-12 will be compatible with the 688 upon shipping. Future support for both the 664 and 633 will follow" Thanks, Chris. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Trew Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Ah. In that case, I wonder how long the support for 664/633 will take to implement? gt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Wynne Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 This is a very exciting product for 6xx owners. I'm considering pre ordering. My current cart gear is configured with a 788t & Solice mini as mixer. Switching to the 688t / cl12 ads 4 more track iso's, more routing flexibility and less power draw . If the cl12 goes down you can still mix from the rotary knobs in a pinch. Using another 688 or 633 as you secondary back up recorder seems logical. But I could feed the 788t as back up. Would of never thought the 788 would take a back seat position to a 6 series recorder though. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codyman Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 I stopped by IBC today and took a look at it. Solid build quality like always and pretty slick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) is it just me or is the headphone volume knob in a weird awkward spot? almost like it should where the record and stop buttons are and they buttons should be where the headphone knob is Edited September 11, 2015 by Glen Deakin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shastapete Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 is it just me or is the headphone volume knob in a weird awkward spot? Let the redesigning begin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriskellett Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Does anyone know about the slate mic/com inputs, would you still lose a channel to them like the 788 when using an external headset mic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Stage Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Does anyone know about the slate mic/com inputs, would you still lose a channel to them like the 788 when using an external headset mic? The 664 and the 688 differ from the 788T in that they both already have dedicated inputs for a slate mic. The 664 has a dedicated COM output and the 688 uses any of Aux 1-4 outputs for COMs. That is why the CL-12 differs from the CL-9 in that the CL-12 does not provide additional inputs and outputs for COM functions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 is it just me or is the headphone volume knob in a weird awkward spot? almost like it should where the record and stop buttons are and they buttons should be where the headphone knob is no, it's good this way. On the CL-9, I would sometimes hit either the stop or record button, especially when working with the higher number channels. I put a lid on the stop button, as that is the worse problem, but I definetely prefer to have these buttons within reach, but out of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris R Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 I'm absolutely loving this but the one thing I'm questioning is the need for hardware knobs for L/R X1/X2. I might be in the minority but once I have those levels set I rarely need to move them. Would be excellent if they were assignable for things like trim control for 7-10 or a host of other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudRaymond Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I'm absolutely loving this but the one thing I'm questioning is the need for hardware knobs for L/R X1/X2. I might be in the minority but once I have those levels set I rarely need to move them. Would be excellent if they were assignable for things like trim control for 7-10 or a host of other things. I imagine software assignment of the trim pots to the existing hardware could be implemented in a future firmware update. I for one would miss having individual trim control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 The lack of trim knobs on the mixer panel is unfortunate. I think they did this for want of compatibility with the 664 which is mostly analog so the trim could not possibly be re-routed to a different physical control. Though I would think the same of the fader... Supposedly, if you're using a 688 anyway, the mini faders for 7-12 become trims just like when the CL6 is connected. Still, if you're mixing a very dynamic scene I can't imagine reaching up to the 688, finding the right trim knob, tweaking, then back down to the fader will be very fast. We'll see, there are many other great things about this product as far as I can tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I doubt the decision to not include trim pots had anything to do with lack of compatibility with 664. Several functions offered with the CL-12 will only work with the 688. I think it's an unfortunate mistake to leave trim pots off a mixing panel. Sometimes ultra-secrecy can hurt a product. I'd imagine with a bit of research they'd realize that the target consumer of mixing panels would overwhelmingly agree that trim pots should be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyerEar Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I agree 100%. Trims are used all the time... Is the Headphone control a push button encoder also? The rotary trim and pfl/selector on each channel of the cl-9 is so useful and used on most every take... Shame to lose it. When I saw the pictures I assumed the headphone knob would work as 'master' control in conjunction with individual channel selectors... Chris R - I thought the same... On my cl-9 they are almost a liability... Once set they never need to move and a slight knock or movement can mess things up. I'd rather these items were menu based. After a line-up who adjusts these? A fellow mixer told me recently he uses them to control dynamics on shouts and screams when sending to camera..? I've only done that using the faders... But I haven't sent anything to camera in a few years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpro Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Well the yet to be released CL-14 will address those concerns, remember NAB is next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Just put in a pre-order on a standard CL-12. I recently put together a bag/cart hybrid around a 688 and a Euro Cart so this is the logical step for me. The Alaia is very cool and very pretty but after a quick call with SD I found out that it is slightly wider than the standard and just too wide for the PSC Euro Cart shelves which are 14.5". For anyone interested, the standard comes in just under 14.5" while the Alaia will be just over 15" wide. according to Sound Devices: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Sonnenfeld Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Hmm, very interesting. Looks like they flipped the shelf upside down so that it is completely flat without the curved up edges. Thanks for posting the pic Jose! And thank you Sound Devices for checking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyerEar Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Well the yet to be released CL-14 will address those concerns, remember NAB is next. yawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 I really like what all the major manufacturers are producing for our niche industry. One of the things that was really helpful in the original Sonosax SX8 was the integrated slide out shelf. That is where my script pages are pasted for easy reference during filming. I wonder if SD could make an optional set of slightly raised wood (or even aluminum) sides with notches for a slide out plexi lid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Wynne Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) I'm hoping that the X1 & X2 LED indicators on top of each channel strip will illuminate two different colors to indicate Pre or Post fade sends and better yet be switchable by pressing through each opinion including send off Edited September 13, 2015 by Michael Wynne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Isaacs Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Trims 1-6 are 100% analog and so cannot be controlled via remote interface. When the CL-12 is connected, trims 7-12 appear on the mini-faders 7-12. So, although you don't have the perfect situation of having trims just above the faders on the CL-12, you still have pretty easy direct access to all 12 trims with just a short reach to the 688 front panel. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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