RadoStefanov Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Thanks for catching it Ryan. That explains why USB never worked... I will wait till the 8 AES and zaxnet mod is ready and send the unit for both... There is a hardware difference between the 12 and the other Nomads, but it is possible to do the software unlock for track count without having the additional hardware installed. However, if you paid for the upgrade but never sent it in for the new hardware, you should still be able to have it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Was your nomad originally a Nomad 8? Before the 10 was introduced Zaxcom offered the 4, 6, 8 and 12 with the Linux board installed on both the 8 and 12. Currently there is the Lite, 10 and 12 with the Linux board only on the 12 I got the 6 and then upgraded to 8. Then I got the 12 upgrade. Any way I can check if the linux board was installed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 When I bought my Nomad, it was the top of the line which was then a Nomad 8. The Lite, 10, and 12 designations came later. The N8 contained the processor, so upgrading to a Nomad 12 was just via a code. IIRC, the 6 basically became the 10 and the 8 essentially became the 12, and a Lite version was added (was there also a 4 in the first iteration?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Radlauer Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 WOW! That is super confusing. Is there a reason for the inconsistency of hardware between versions? I had always thought everything was linux based. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 I got the 6 and then upgraded to 8. Then I got the 12 upgrade. Any way I can check if the linux board was installed? Check the USB status in the Eng - advanced menu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 WOW! That is super confusing. Is there a reason for the inconsistency of hardware between versions? I had always thought everything was linux based. There is an additional board that provides the USB capabilities, which is only included in the top model. Other than that, the hardware is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 It's only a bit confusing if you're trying to understand the correlation between the previous incarnations and the current, otherwise you can just consult the chart of features for the three available versions (Nomad Lite, Nomad 10, Nomad 12). My understanding is that just the top model (Nomad 12 which has the additional processor) can use the Oasis and Nomad Touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted April 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 I got the 6 and then upgraded to 8. Then I got the 12 upgrade. Any way I can check if the linux board was installed? ENG Menu > Advanced Menu > USB Status If your Linux board is installed and the software is up to date it will say "USB Option Is Ready" and have a software date of Dec 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 ENG Menu > Advanced Menu > USB Status If your Linux board is installed and the software is up to date it will say "USB Option Is Ready" and have a software date of Dec 21 If your nomad was purchased with the additional board, but before the USB software was ready and installed it will say something different, but I don't remember what since it's been so long since I did this. If it's installed but not activated the USB firmware can be updated with a microsd card and the software package from Zaxcom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted April 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 If your nomad was purchased with the additional board, but before the USB software was ready and installed it will say something different, but I don't remember what since it's been so long since I did this. If i recall correctly it will say "Waiting on USB" Or something like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseScissorhands Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Nomad 12 has an additional Linux processor that the 10 and Lite doesn't have - it's this processor that handles the processing necessary to run both the Touch and Oasis. You can upgrade a Lite or a 10 by having the Linux board installed - but that requires a trip back to Zaxcom. All you need to do is contact Zaxcom and arrange for the upgrade. Thanks Jack. But I am in China now....So taking myNomad10 back to Zaxcom...haha......I shouldn't bought the Nomad10.I thought that 12 's another USB just for the external HD or coding mp3..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseScissorhands Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Unless something changed Nomad 10 has the processor on mine. I updated to 12 with a simple upgrade code. What? Only a code? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted April 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 If you have the Linux board installed then yes it's just a code this would be the if you had an older nomad 8. If you don't have the board then it will require a trip back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stacysound Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Any way to tell if you have the Linux board installed? My USB port works... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Any way to tell if you have the Linux board installed? My USB port works... Kelsey and Jack point it out earlier in the thread: ENG Menu > Advanced Menu > USB Status If your Linux board is installed and the software is up to date it will say "USB Option Is Ready" and have a software date of Dec 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Any way to tell if you have the Linux board installed? My USB port works... If your USB port works, then you have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Lau Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Oasis is great, but it's quite large, quite expensive, wish there was a aaton style mini controller with 100mm faders like that, for basic up / down mixing. Like a mix 8 except a fraction of the height. the depth of oasis makes it awkard on smaller carts. In any case, still amazing, I think the mix 8 due to it's size is still attractive to me, heck, maybe I can pick up a mix 8 dirt cheap sometime soon since most will get the oasis. I can sell my mix8 to you, once i get my Oasis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 I want it PM'd I can sell my mix8 to you, once i get my Oasis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izen Ears Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 After reading this whole thread, I am still a bit confused about the Nomad Touch thingee. Computers are mentioned, but I don't get what that adds (or takes away). I would love to see a list of exactly what options are added with each thing. For example, a Nomad 12 with the Touch can do X, Y, Z, while a Nomad 12 with the Touch and PC can do X, Y, Z and A, B and C. I ask because I abhor the concept of having any computer (Apple or Windows) involved with my sound recording. Which is why I'm looking for another Deva 16, and will never consider using the Deva 32. (For you wiseasses I well know the Deva 16 employs circuit boards and processors, but it's not a PC!) Dan Izen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 When you buy Nomad touch, you are buying the USB cable and software. The software runs on windows, and is designed to be used on a tablet like the surface. You basically get a large display with touchscreen control. I believe it integrates rx12 control as well. The only additional feature I can think of off the top of my head is metadata integration with movieslate 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) I share your sentiment Izen Ears, I have my own set of personal problems regarding the use of computers (particularly Windows PCs but also Macs) in conjunction with our dedicate recorders (and I also acknowledge that our dedicated recorders ARE computers running variants of the dominate operating systems). It does appear that the direction that everything is going, ALL our recorders, mixing panels, wireless systems, etc., will be more and more heavily involved with mainstream computer technologies and software. Look at all the devices that can now be controlled from iPads (and other tablets), how setups and configurations require computers, the trend to go to network solutions to provide features and functions which of course brings with it the necessity of routers, network switches, software applications for routing and so forth. Regarding the new products from Zaxcom, the "computer" in use is primarily used to provide the rich and user-friendly touchscreens that all the products offer. None of the computing devices that are external to the product are handling any of the mission critical processing or recording. Nomad Touch utilizes a tablet (computer) to provide touchscreen access to Nomad's features and functions --- the computer in this tablet (in this case, a tablet running Microsoft OS) has no involvement in the audio or recording process --- the Nomad recorder does all of this just as it has always done. Oasis provides a hardware user interface to Nomad to gives you a lot more than just faders and a few knobs. The computer in this case can be any Windows OS tablet, Windows PC (laptop for example) or a Mac (Mac Mini, laptop, etc.). Moving up to Deva32, again, the computer has nothing to do with the audio or the recording, this is all Deva, all Zaxcom, all the way. The computer (which can be a Windows PC or a Mac) is there to provide additional I/O and to provide the beautiful and full featured touchscreen. None of the new products utilize iOS devices (which are also computers of course) except for the integration of MovieSlate which runs on iPads and iPhones. Edited June 18, 2015 by Jeff Wexler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted June 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Nomad touch uses any computer or tablet (as long as it's running windows 8.1) to control a Nomad 12. All features are the same regardless what hardware you use. What you get is most of your nomad functions are done on the touch surface or computer vs using the Nomad menu encoder and lcd screen. So stuff like routing, file naming, record enables, Metadata entry, etc are done with a large surface and pop up keyboard. You get a large home screen that allows you to see meters, Metadata, tc, record parameters and a whole lot more. Nomad touch also give you MP3 recording within the computer that can be sent via wifi to a transcription house or Dropbox etc. You also get an integrated audio player, large tc slate with Metadata and an the ability to interface with the MovieSlate app. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izen Ears Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Huh! So Nomad Touch is the tools one needs to run that touchscreen, which is not a touchscreen but rather a whole little computer tablet thingee that must be purchased separately. Got it! Kinda like a remote Deva touchscreen. As someone mentioned there's no way to access the trim through the "touchscreen." I don't get that. Why not make the entire menu system available? THAT would be awesome, and make the hurt of the discontinuation of the other Devas less. Thanks for the clarification! Dan Izen (never afraid to ask questions that everyone else knows the answers to!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindrop Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Anyone hear of any date for the general release of Touch or Oasis yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srgtfury Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Fury heard that it was another 4-6 weeks-that was last week. Thank you very much Fury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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