Pablo Villegas Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I have a director who would like to listen into the individual transmitters of the talent without having to go through my feed. He mentioned that in the last he has used an R1a to do this. My question is: if I set my talent transmitters to IFB mode so that he could tune in with an R1a, would the quality of the audio that I would be receiving be affected? Pablo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Would that not that the actor will always be herd no matter what? Even if not in scene or off set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryF Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I have a director who would like to listen into the individual transmitters of the talent without having to go through my feed. He mentioned that in the last he has used an R1a to do this. My question is: if I set my talent transmitters to IFB mode so that he could tune in with an R1a, would the quality of the audio that I would be receiving be affected? Pablo Unfortunately, yes. Best,Larry FLectro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Villegas Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 That's what I thought. Thanks Larry. Any ideas on how I could accomplish such a setup without compromising the audio quality of the main program? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Villegas Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Glen. That's the point of the setup. It's not a fiction shoot and they are aware that they won't led be heard even when off camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryF Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I don't have an economical solution that doesn't require a dedicated 400 series receiver and a headphone amp. Best Regards,Larry FisherLectrosonics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Villegas Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Thanks Larry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Goldberger Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Years ago I was on a show that used receivers by a company called icom (I believe), that could listen in to a variety of wireless transmitters, including lectrosonics in 400 mode. The range was quite poor and the audio fidelity even worse, but it worked, and if I recall they were quite reasonably priced. Might be worth looking into. E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 The director probably had worked with a mixer that had multiple (up to 5) ifb transmitters that he could preset through, probably not listening directly to the cast tx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bralleput Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Icom: that is a scanner/receiver.That will work,tune into the wired channel and the director will receive a 'fingerinthenose' kind of signal,but hey it's something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Villegas Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Looked into icoms. Interesting but not something I would invest on just for this show. Thanks for the tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Thomas Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 As Larry said, the best sounding (but not the most economical) solution would be a Digital Hybrid receiver and a headphone amp. In case you consider this option, the new LR receiver is small and portable and covers three blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpbat Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Find a used System 100 receiver (the cheapest I can think of) on the same block and ask Gilles (RF Audio) to mod it as he did for me (adding an internal headphone amp and replace the small pot by a larger one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Find a used System 100 receiver (the cheapest I can think of) on the same block and ask Gilles (RF Audio) to mod it as he did for me (adding an internal headphone amp and replace the small pot by a larger one). Does the 100 series know what to do with a digital hybrid signal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpbat Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Oops, you have a point... (I use a 100 modded receiver with a LM transmitter) OK, replace the beginning of my sentence by : find the used cheapest receiver you can find that is able to receive digital hybrid signal… (then I hope the remaining is valid if you happen to live in Montreal, but I admit I got a bit too fast on the send button) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 i've used a hand held scanner/receiver to give a director this option. It is quite effective despite the low quality audio, and about the cheapest way to achieve what they are asking for. Get 1 that is easy to use EG. scan and program. The 1 i have is a pain. dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudRaymond Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 You could setup IFB transmitters for each ISO and then the director could dial through each one, up to 5. Takes some time to program, but it's doable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arnold Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Off the top of my head you might need to be using Wisycom to get this kind of thing to work. I believe the average G3 on the same band can tune in to the transmitters and thus dial up and down the various talent presets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlw Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 To dovetail off of what David Thomas suggested, we did an experiment by wiring a cheap set of earbuds with a TA3F so they could be plugged directly into the output of an LR Receiver (wiring is headphone shields to pin 3, headphone hots to pin 2). It works reasonably well with the receiver audio output turned all the way up to +5, although some may want more volume. There are probably more efficient earbuds out there that would work even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidm Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 A headphone output variant of the LR receiver would be useful as a higher quality (digital hybrid) monitoring receiver compared to the R1a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bralleput Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Hire/get a second R1a + transmitter (or a G3,or whatever set) on another block and put that on the output of the talents channel output?Don't know what recorder you are using?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeheel Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) I've got an Icom R6 scanner and I can confirm that it works with Lectro 400 signals (I'm not sure how an analog receiver is able to deal with Digital Hybrid signals, but it does) It is very distorted however, and would not be fun for anyone to listen to for any length of time. Cheers, Brent Calkin Edited May 29, 2015 by Freeheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Villegas Posted May 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 After some research and reaching out to the previous sound guy on the show I confirmed that the only way to do what the director is asking for is getting a transmitter plugged to the direct outs of my 664 set to IFB mode for each of the talent tracks. We only have 3 cast members on this show, so it's doable but probably not worth it... Thanks for the input everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean McCormick Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 iCom is the smallest, cheapest solution that I'm aware of. Sounds lousy, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 (I'm not sure how an analog receiver is able to deal with Digital Hybrid signals, but it does) It is very distorted however Asked and answered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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