Andy P Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 Very nice Jose. Can I ask about the mount - was there any audible vibrations from the stereo bar on the mics, and how is the 742 mounted on it, do you have a pic of that at all, from the bottom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Cameron Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 That was what I was wondering. How do potholes sound? Super slick DIY, Jose. Much respect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted July 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Very nice Jose. Can I ask about the mount - was there any audible vibrations from the stereo bar on the mics, and how is the 742 mounted on it, do you have a pic of that at all, from the bottom? Thanks! There wasn't any audible vibrations in the recording. But, they didn't drive through the most difficult roads either. I don't have a close-up of the mount at the moment, but I can certainly take one soon. The 742 is mounted using the Ambient QAT-ECO. So are the DPA 4098s. This may change a bit as the rig evolves, but for now, it seems to work fine. That was what I was wondering. How do potholes sound? Super slick DIY, Jose. Much respect! I think potholes will sound the same no matter what you're using, being that the whole car vibrates and thuds with a pot hole. Even with the best suspension and a HPF engaged, I suspect that you will hear *something* at least. And thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Cameron Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I think potholes will sound the same no matter what you're using, being that the whole car vibrates and thuds with a pot hole. Even with the best suspension and a HPF engaged, I suspect that you will hear *something* at least. And thanks! Yes, that's right. I rarely do car rigs, and I forgot how heinous the >20hz is through a car frame. :\ Show us the mounting hardware part.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted July 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Absolutely. Here are some pictures (forgive the flash, really bad lighting where I'm at): Collapsed: Expanded: With the microdot to XLR adapters + 4098 mics: The "arms" of the stereo mount and the Ambient XLR tips at each end are adjustable to get to the best position. At the bottom of the stereo mount is a 1/4"-20 threaded insert which can be screwed onto a dinkum arm or any other mount/setup of your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I just had an idea for those who are concerned about lack of shockmounting with this rig: how about using the old Shure "donut" shockmount (still available) in place of the Ambient XLR Tip. The XLR connector/adapter would sit within the Shure mount and provide a good degree of shock protection. One would have to experiment because the mount might be too flexible which could cause the whole gooseneck to flex and bang around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 What about an ambient floater at the middle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 You could also decouple the stand from the car with a piece of 1/4" neoprene or similar material. Not quite as much as the above suggestions, but simple and small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted July 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I just had an idea for those who are concerned about lack of shockmounting with this rig: how about using the old Shure "donut" shockmount (still available) in place of the Ambient XLR Tip. The XLR connector/adapter would sit within the Shure mount and provide a good degree of shock protection. One would have to experiment because the mount might be too flexible which could cause the whole gooseneck to flex and bang around. good idea. There's also this shure mount too: I'll try them out and report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 What about an ambient floater at the middle? Glen - camera!! Absolutely. Here are some pictures ///// Yes, this is a Whirlwind stereo bar. Or equivalent. I feel this kind of rig with these mics needs a new design for suspension. -vin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Was just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy P Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Thanks for the extra pics Jose, very good indeed. Glad to hear there was no vibrations on the initial recordings. I love the simple, small form factor of your rig. I'd try and keep it small if you felt you needed some shock mounting, and try the neoprene option first, then the bigger mounts. Nothing like stating the obvious eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) From my experience newer DPA 5V mics work fine in normal environment. Older DPA mics can experience RF issues. I had 23 out of 23 DPA 4061s having RF issues when I converted to Zaxcom. I just got a new DPA 5V mic that works just great with Zaxcom. It might even sounds better then 4063. (: Edited July 15, 2015 by RadoStefanov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Anderson Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 ok, its been a few years now... has this setup evolved at all, or is it still working well as it is/was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Miles Anderson said: ok, its been a few years now... has this setup evolved at all, or is it still working well as it is/was? Works fine. No need for 742. Just a stereo TRX with a Y cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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