Hugh Palmer Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Hey all, I'm about to start work on an animation of a firefly and am trying to recreate a real flappy, fantasy, fairy like wing sound. Something similar to this at 12seconds. http://www.bonson.ca/product/wings/ I have tried flapping pieces of paper of different sizes and speeding it up which seems to work but I can't quite get that proper flap out of it... more of the papery click.. Wondering if any of you had some advice/ideas as to how I could make this work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Rose Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 baseball cap. Hold it by the brim and flap the cap around. That'll sound like bird wings.... then modify/varispeed/vocode/etc to taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 I found a couple of dozen bird-flap-type sound effects on Sound Ideas' website: http://www.sound-ideas.com/search-sound-effects.html Sound Dogs will also have tons of this stuff: http://www.sounddogs.com These will cost you some bucks, but it's usually fairly affordable and you can audition them for free prior to download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason A Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Experimenting and developing your own custom solution is usually best, but if trial and error is putting you too far behind schedule.... http://www.asoundeffect.com/sound-library/wings/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Palmer Posted July 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Thanks gentlemen. I'll definitely try the baseball cap I might throw up a sample or two of where I'm at when I get off set and see what you guys recon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) Baseball cap always sounded like a baseball cap to me. Try getting a small stack of cards, flap them in front of your mouth and blow. Different size cards, different speeds, different kinds of blowing. Feather dusters and small swatches of well worked in thick fabric. Also, wax paper or specialty papers in little holders. Edited July 20, 2015 by minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 In the sound library we made for the Disney nature series we did for years many of the wing flaps were in fact feather dusters. They worked ok, with a lot of EQ. Better as singles or twos, a whole flock of them sounded pretty weird. p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Have a look at the Sound Rangers website I pass a lot of material there to Barry Dowsett https://www.soundrangers.com/ mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sounddguy Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 When peeling an orange, save the white skin. Let it dry. manipulate. Also a Kleenex tissue held loose, then pulled taunt. Be mindful of plosives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef Albertyn Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 cut small bits of leather different thickness & stiffness- in pairs (about the size of the palm of your hand. I have several sets - stiffer for small birds - softer for larger - keep two together & flap them about. Then eq the crap out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Beatty Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) Flip a bike upside down and fasten paper/cardboard/baseball/plaing cards to the frame with a clothespin and spin the wheel. Move the card in to get a heavier wing and out to get a lighter wing. Edited August 14, 2015 by Doug Beatty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Flip a bike upside down and fasten paper/cardboard/baseball/plaing cards to the frame with a clothespin and spin the wheel. Move the card in to get a heavier wing and out to get a lighter wing. what about the sound of the bike? The chain and all? Doesn't that distract a bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 what about the sound of the bike? The chain and all? Doesn't that distract a bit? turning the bike upside down gets rid of the "chain and all", unless the hub bearings are loose or too tight or the wheel is so untrue it rubs on the brakes (in which case you need a bike mechanic or at least some cone spanners and spoke key ;-) That said don't the spokes 'ring' a bit after being plucked by the card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Beatty Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 turning the bike upside down gets rid of the "chain and all", unless the hub bearings are loose or too tight or the wheel is so untrue it rubs on the brakes (in which case you need a bike mechanic or at least some cone spanners and spoke key ;-) That said don't the spokes 'ring' a bit after being plucked by the card? It depends on the thickness of the card and the speed of the wheel. If you are hearing ringing from the spokes, try a folded sheet of construction or stationery paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Palmer Posted August 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Heaps of great tips here. I like the bike trick for a consistent "rate of flap" but sounds a little hard for me withe card on metal.. Could be nice using a softer material maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprotnik Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 GLOVES Different kinds of gloves (big, small, leather, whool... Search for your sound) Take both in one hand from the hole you put your hand in (leaving the fingers of the gloves free) and shake it in the mood you need flapping against each other and against your hand. It's an old trick of foley artist to make sounds of wings. Luck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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