al mcguire Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) Lawrence of Arabia (1962). David Lean Cinematography: Freddie Young Photo by: Kenneth Danvers Is this what a 70 mm mag looks like ? Edited September 16, 2015 by al mcguire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcanon Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 I'm speculating here, but is it possible what we're seeing is the blimp that goes over the magazine, not the mag itself? If it were the magazine, I think you would see where the spindles for the supply reel and take-up reel attach to the side of the mag, like most other magazines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al mcguire Posted September 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Another shot and you are correct Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 " You show that to the youth of today, and they won't believe you..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 How about this behind the scenes shot from the making of "Gone with the Wind" (1939) --- what a lot of effort for what looks to be a fairly simple shot. You've got people dollying the camera-crane, dollying the boom, there's a whole lot going on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Miramontes Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 It always amazes me to see how far away the mic is from talent in those old pics. Yet, I'm usually always trying to get my CMIT-5U a hair above the frame line when possible. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Nice pics ya'll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Waelder Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 It always amazes me to see how far away the mic is from talent in those old pics I don't think there's any dialog in that shot. (At least I don't recall any.) David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 I don't think there's any dialog in that shot. (At least I don't recall any.) David I know what Michael is saying, often we see in these old pictures the microphone seems very far away from the actors speaking. The explanation I have always gone with is this: the majority of the scenes we see are on sound stages, really, really quiet stages, sets that have been constructed to accommodate that big microphone on the boom over their heads, and the actors, for the most part, are speaking at a proper and appropriate level --- many of them have had vocal training. All of these factors I have just mentioned are conspicuously absent in much of the work we do these days. The sets are practical (but impractical) locations or sets built in warehouses, there is no way to get ANY boom mic in a position to do any good (multiple cameras, many of them making a great deal of noise on their own), the "actors" may have little or no training and really took it to heart in one of their acting workshops where someone cautioned them not to go too "big" on the screen, etc., etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Salazar Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Lawrence of Arabia (1962). David Lean Cinematography: Freddie Young Photo by: Kenneth Danvers Is this what a 70 mm mag looks like ? "The camera core was the Mitchell FC 65mm camera modified by Panavision for 70mm and placed in a rather elegant blimp."widescreenmuseum.com Edited September 18, 2015 by Christopher Salazar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Waelder Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) I believe all the large format production cameras (Super Panavision, etc.) were 65mm cameras. Only the release prints were 70mm. The slightly larger format allowed for the sound tracks. David Edited September 18, 2015 by David Waelder punctuation correction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Salazar Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Back when they would blimp the cameras along with the operators: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Cameron Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Look at the body language of the producer type leaning against the center camera. Either he's posing with his ego, or he's not having a good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Back when they would blimp the cameras along with the operators: What studio do you think this was shot on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Miramontes Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Sure wish we could all wear formal attire on set like back in the day. Those must have been great times. I know what Michael is saying, often we see in these old pictures the microphone seems very far away from the actors speaking. The explanation I have always gone with is this: the majority of the scenes we see are on sound stages, really, really quiet stages, sets that have been constructed to accommodate that big microphone on the boom over their heads, and the actors, for the most part, are speaking at a proper and appropriate level --- many of them have had vocal training. All of these factors I have just mentioned are conspicuously absent in much of the work we do these days. The sets are practical (but impractical) locations or sets built in warehouses, there is no way to get ANY boom mic in a position to do any good (multiple cameras, many of them making a great deal of noise on their own), the "actors" may have little or no training and really took it to heart in one of their acting workshops where someone cautioned them not to go too "big" on the screen, etc., etc. I feel a little better now. Thanks. =) Edited September 18, 2015 by Michael Miramontes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Mega Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 I think it's hilarious that one of the guys pushing the dolly has a cigarette hanging out of his mouth!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Reineke Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 "Sure wish we could all wear formal attire on set like back in the day. Those must have been great times."- Yeah but, a dark suit on a hot humid sunny day is not my idea of comfortable. Love those old photos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Looks like old LA to me--tile roofs+stucco and all. The mic being high up--yes, actors with theatre training then, as opposed to actors with modeling (or no) training now. Nowadays even some big films (let alone everything else) are often expected to be recorded with the sound attitude of documentaries (ie "it is what it is"). p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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