Steve Nelson, CAS Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Sorry to bother about a discontinued legacy product, but the Deva 5.8 is arguably the best thing Zaxcom has given us. Having said that, I'm using it right now to re-mirror some material for Post. I'd been rewriting to CF and dumping those onto the HD but this time I thought I'd try something else and write directly to an external HD. Rebooted and redirected it to write via Firewire (another legacy!), I thought I heard a little "click" and the now screen is nothing but white. After several restarts white it remains. Black screens I've had, this is different. Any ideas on what is the problem or a remedy? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 I wonder if the external drive perhaps exceeded the Deva's firewire current capacity. What external drive did you use? What do you see now as you boot up? Anything other than white? Will it still play, and/or record, audio? Do the buttons light up? As near as you can tell, does the CF slot still work? Tell us more... tell us more... NOTE: The Deva IV, V, 5.8, & 16 may technically be considered "legacy," but some people would be surprised at the amount of audio that you hear on a regular basis in theaters, on TV, on radio, online, etc. that continues to be recorded on these venerable machines. They may be discontinued, but they're far from obsolete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Far from obsolete --- the Deva is the main recorder still for lots of us. The Cooper board is not only discontinued, the company doesn't even exist anymore, but is still producing great soundtracks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Hold the #4 key as you boot the unit up this should restore the screen. You may need to do a factory restore after this. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howy Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 It could be the battery (coin-cell) backed ram lost its memory and it forgot what kind of screen it has. If you hold the 4 key for about 20 seconds while booting it will toggle the screen mode between the two display types. -howy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Hope this worked for you Steve. As for legacy, I think the Deva's are solidly in this category as well as the Fusion. Zaxcom no longer makes them, and has no drives for the Deva because they are no longer used in the world. My internal drive on my Deva 4 went down this week. I used my old drive and got it working again without much loss of production time because I had my bag system with me ready to go and used it. I am now in the process of getting the CF card option for the Deva 4 but it has some limitations I'm told. I doubt I'd ever sell my Deva 4, but it won't be my cart recorder going forward. It's been a good run and it served me very well. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) I remember catching a rainstorm of shit from Crew for saying the same thing he just said. Edited October 3, 2015 by Mirror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 I don't remember but I'm guessing it's how you said it, not what you said Dr Reflecto. Whatever the case if I offended you I apologize. Moving on for me has more to do with the work flow I am now encountering more than the machine itself. I'm sure the Deva 4 would last until I retire, but what I really need is more tracks and I am in the process of making that decision. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Hope this worked for you Steve. As for legacy, I think the Deva's are solidly in this category as well as the Fusion. Zaxcom no longer makes them, and has no drives for the Deva because they are no longer used in the world. My internal drive on my Deva 4 went down this week. I used my old drive and got it working again without much loss of production time because I had my bag system with me ready to go and used it. I am now in the process of getting the CF card option for the Deva 4 but it has some limitations I'm told. I doubt I'd ever sell my Deva 4, but it won't be my cart recorder going forward. It's been a good run and it served me very well. CrewC I've been using a CF card as the main drive in my Deva V for a long time now. The only real limitation I'm aware of is using the right $13 CF adapter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Ironically it is the continuos mirroring of an ext card burner/reader that I'm told can slow down with the CF card in the main drive as compared to the original spinning drives. Not much of an issue really. My 4 would most likely be fine if my work flow stayed the way it was 3 - 5 years ago. These days 5 & 6 radios a day seems the norm. I feel I need more Rfs and tracks as I shoot for the finish line. The good news is I have choices. CrewC BTW, legacy doesn't mean obsolete to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 I typically engage continuous mirroring while I'm recording and have not experienced the issue you mentioned -- even with high track counts. Below is a link to a previous thread in which I went into more detail. BTW: I strongly recommend the Syba adapter. Since the previous thread was written -- in testing I observed a bit of wonkyness with a different adapter, but the Syba model has been rock solid for me. It also has the advantage of maintaining the hard drive form factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 I think that is the one I have on order. Thanks JB CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 The IDE to CF adapter brand is Syba. The model number should be: ADA45006. If it's installed in a standard Deva carrier, the side you install a CF card in (CF1 MASTER) will be face down. If it's installed in a Remote Audio Drive Mounter system, CF1 MASTER will be face up (making a card swap easier). I've never even tried using cards on both sides, as I like simple, straight forward, and dependable. I don't want the data to be spanned. The Remote Audio system is comprised of: Circuit Board Assembly - $94.99 Bracket - $79.99 Door - $ 44.99 http://www.trewaudio.com/store/Recording-Accessories.html The Compact Flash cards I use are Transcend 64GB 400X: http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-Compact-Flash-Memory-TS64GCF400/dp/B002WE0QN8/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1443913684&sr=1-8&keywords=transcend+compact+flash Let us know how it works out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 BTW, for anyone who still wants to go that route, IDE laptop hard drives (what a Deva uses if its owner hasn't ventured into CF land) are still made and sold and are readily available. They're often typically $40 - $70. Newegg / Amazon / Etc. I think Zaxcom mostly used Hitachi drives, which are still sold -- rumors of their death are greatly exaggerated. Of course, I prefer the CF route. I can quickly pull my main drive from the cart's Deva and pop it into a Nomad to continue recording with a more portable rig. -- Ye! hah! (exuberance) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Interesting. I'm getting different info. I'll check into this Monday when everyone is back at work. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 careful with IDE drives - many are refurbished... even if in sealed packaging... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 To clarify, I didn't mean that Zaxcom carries the drives, but that they are readily available. Search for "IDE laptop hard drives" on Amazon, Newegg, etc. Having updated to solid state media, I don't anticipate going back to spinning disks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 The more I think about it the solid state option makes the most sense going forward. I still will send my Deva 4 to the bench and let it play on the special team or back up position. Thanks JB & Vin. Sorry for hijacking the Whiteout thread. Crew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 I don't know if it works with the Deva, but you can also buy a SATA to IDE adapter. With that you might be able to use SSD hard drives drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 There are definitely still a bunch of Hitachi 2.5" Travelstar 160GB drives up on eBay. There's also some 250GB's up there as well, but I'm not sure what the drive size limit was on the Deva operating system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Seems a pity to give up on such a proven featureful axe just because of media, but if you need more tracks anyhow (and since you drive a mixer on yr cart) you have a lot more options these days. I'll be interested to know what new recorder passes the Crew test. p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I think 80 gig is the max on the Deva but that could be wrong. It does have a size limit though. I'll always keep and use the Deva on some level. The new system is about track count and more radios than the 6 in my venue. I'll certainly post my decision when I make up my mind. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 130 gigs is the max that the Deva will read. Even if you shove in a 250 gig drive the machine will only use 130 gigs of it. Weird, huh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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