Richard Ragon Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-film-students-weapons-panic-closure-of-101-freeway-20151129-story.html Aren't these diploma school factories, doing their students a real disservice? -Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 These students learned a valuable real-world lesson that I'm betting they'll never forget. Both they, and the school, should share the costs incurred. "...Oh, so that's why you need a permit." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcanon Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 These bozos likely went off the reservation. Many film schools have strict policies concerning prop firearms in school-sanctioned films. E.g., here is NYFA's policy (paragraph 7). Plus, I don't think Moorpark College qualifies as a "diploma mill". It is part of California's Community College system, and is a reputable school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I know a few film students who've been through local programs, and I've always been told they have to get permission, permits, and insurance for their little production. The truth is that official LA Film permits for students are not that expensive in most areas, but there's no bloody way they'd let them pull out weapons on a freeway. These kids were brazen and arrogant beyond belief to think they could get away with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Rose Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 So did a clueless instructor say "Go ahead, make a guerrilla movie and ask permission later"? If so, the instructor and school should be sanctioned. Or did the instructor tell these kids about permits (and public safety, and respecting your location) but they went rogue... in which case, they should be expelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Feeley Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Sound department blows it again. And Moorpark appears to not really be culpable... From the Ventura County Star: ===== Candice Larson, a faculty member at Moorpark College's Film Television and Media program, said neither of the students are registered in a film production class at the school this semester. "One of them is in an audio production class" she said, adding if the students were making a film as part of a college project they very likely would have been enrolled in a film production class this semester, "something that again is not the case." Larson also said the program has a strict no-gun policy, meaning guns are not used in any film scripts that are written by students or others at the college. Before shooting a film, students must also get proper permitting, "something that does not appear to have been done here," she said. "We require that they get permits both so that everyone can know what's going on and because dealing with red tape is something they need to learn how to do," she said. ===== Rest of the article (which covers stuff in the LA Times story above): http://www.vcstar.com/news/local/conejo-valley/2-arrested-for-standing-over-highway-101-with-fake-weapons-25c54ea5-47f1-49bc-e053-0100007ff6ee-358870451.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Rose Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 23 hours ago, Jim Feeley said: neither of the students are registered in a film production class at the school this semester Justifying this thread's title: NOT having any film training seems to be a requirement for CL producers ; ) (Of course, her weasel is 'this semester'... Did these kids take a film class last term, and if so, were they exposed to permitting and the no-guns policy?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonG Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I dont think a school should be held accountable if some of their students or former students took it upon themselves to do things their own way despite the rules set by the school. This is an outside project. My audio school shouldn't be held accountable if I dont wrap a cable over-under despite what they taught me lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Rose Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Quote My audio school shouldn't be held accountable if I dont wrap a cable over-under Possibly not. Though it's likely that a cable-killer's boss would think twice before hiring another from that school... But how about if a few of the audio school's current students decide to do live sound for a low-budget festival, make major mistakes doing the rigging themselves, and somebody gets hurt when a speaker array comes down? Chances are pretty good the victim's lawyers would be making a case, in court, that the school is partially responsible. (Would the victim win? Who knows? Depends on who's got the better lawyers...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atheisticmystic Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Why is it always a question of a school or "mill" being negligent, rather than the individual dipshits involved, who all seem to think that cinema=guns ? best, steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Rose Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 7 hours ago, atheisticmystic said: Why is it always a question of a school or "mill" being negligent, rather than the individual dipshits involved Because the lawyers figure they can get more $$ from the school's insurance company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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