AnuarYahya Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 I have tried asking DPA several times and they have not yet replied so I am bringing this question here. I was wondering if anybody has had any experiences dealing with water and the 4063 DPA lav, or any lav in the 4060 family. Will it harm the microphone? or will it just dry out with no problems?. It looks like the DPA Heavy Duty lav can deal with water just fine.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 I've had one of my 4063's filled with water from a rain rig once. Hung it upside down on the truck over night and in the morning it sounded fine. Can't say if it had long term effects since that mic was replaced for unrelated RFI issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanpeds Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 From a DPA source although they won't formally acknowledge that you can get DPA lavs wet and even submerged and they will still work although it does void your warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 My experience is that they work fine after being dunked or splashed. Haven't had them submerged though. Once I rigged two dpas to a camera that was going down a water slide. The mics were dressed with a Rycote furry. The camera was dunked in the pool after the slide (it was in a scuba bag) and the mics were soaked. I took the furrys and caps off the mics real quick, and blowed the water off and dried them a while. No problem. Wouldn't do it again, but it worked, and the sound of the mics dunking the water was awesome, and I used it in the mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJT Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 As far as I'm aware, water itself wont damage the mic. It's the dirt and minerals in the water that can corrode the elements. If the mic does get wet, it's best to wash it with filtered water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I use distilled water when I clean my mics. Works fine. Old Theater trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitter Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Another theatre trick: use a ultrasonic jewelry cleaner to clean sweat and make up from the microphone caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axel Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 do you soak the capsules in distilled water while doing the ultrasonic clean? - I didn't dare to do it with DPAs yet, but I did successfully with VT500 several times. They can get wet and work flawless if dried again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I just remove the 4063 cap an dip the mic in distilled water a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnuarYahya Posted March 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I was not aware of this cleaning method. thank you for this valuable info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Can't currently find it but someone did a test (again with the heavy duty) taking the cap off and walking into a river, submerging it. Again it worked once the water cleared out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 3 hours ago, Richard Thomas said: Can't currently find it but someone did a test (again with the heavy duty) taking the cap off and walking into a river, submerging it. Again it worked once the water cleared out You mean that video, Richard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 2 hours ago, VAS said: You mean that video, Richard? That's it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athomson Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Realising it's an old thread but this is pretty clear in the 4060 manual "If the microphone gets filled up with water or sweat it will not be damaged, but possibly turn deaf while the water is captured inside the microphone, behind the protection grid." https://www.manualslib.com/manual/744164/Dpa-4060.html?page=2 It actually seems there is no waterproofing difference between the standard 4060 and the heavy duty one, both of them you'd ideally remove the cap to aid drainage, they are both unharmed by water but go deaf when its flooded. The other thing is that someone mentioned cleaning the caps/grids in an ultrasonic cleaner and then it seemed others were maybe thinking that post was referring to the mic capsules being cleaned in an ultrasonic cleaner. Has anyone cleaned the whole mic ultrasonically without harm? Would be great if mud or something got in one but i'd be a bit worried unless someone knows its ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 It will not get damaged but may change the frequency response. Dipping in distilled water would help work normally again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athomson Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 that makes sense. Non-distilled water can carry a lot of stuff with it that can be left behind when it dries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Athomson said: that makes sense. Non-distilled water can carry a lot of stuff with it that can be left behind when it dries. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azw Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Will this cleaning technique work with a COS-11? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 56 minutes ago, azw said: Will this cleaning technique work with a COS-11? No way. Once the cos11 mic is full of sweat and dirt particals there is no way to take them out and the mic sounds horrible. The difference between permenent and removable grill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, RadoStefanov said: No way. Once the cos11 mic is full of sweat and dirt particals there is no way to take them out and the mic sounds horrible. The difference between permenent and removable grill Well, you can take the grill out, replace it with a new grill (using their grill replacement tool), and choo... On 7/31/2017 at 2:44 AM, Athomson said: ultrasonic cleaner WONT WORK on mic heads. think about the poor diaphragm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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