Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Has anyone used a large capacity CF card in the primary slot of a Fusion, If so what sort of speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgbsound Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 I have a fusion 12 and I use the Sandisk extreme pro 64 gb cards for recording surround ambiences's at 96k. They are 120mb speed. I haven't tried larger than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthias Richter Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Transcend Extreme-Speed 400x 64GB Compact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted March 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 17 hours ago, Matthias Richter said: Transcend Extreme-Speed 400x 64GB Compact This has come as a bit of a surprise. I was sure that someone would be using 128Gb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthias Richter Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 I found the 128GB too expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howy Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 128GB should work but make sure you get something 400x speed or less. And stay away from Kingston, Lexar and Delkin. -howy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted March 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Howy, someone at your support recommended me to buy Lexar 800x 64Gb. So I bought some. I also bought some 32 &16. Are you now saying that these might be a problem? In which case What would you buy in 128Gb for the primary slot in terms of make and speed? And what about the secondary slot in 16 and 32Gb. Incidentally the Lexars are all UDMA 7. Malcolm Davies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgbsound Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Malcolm, I'm wondering why you need such high capacity in the first place? Even if you have multiple ISO Feeds (I have had at most about 10 feeds for a feature), I only used about 12-13gigs of capacity in a day of shooting. Taking into account that you would back up all your data daily (or a DIT would), why the need for such high amounts of storage? John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted March 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 11 hours ago, jgbsound said: Malcolm, I'm wondering why you need such high capacity in the first place? Even if you have multiple ISO Feeds (I have had at most about 10 feeds for a feature), I only used about 12-13gigs of capacity in a day of shooting. Taking into account that you would back up all your data daily (or a DIT would), why the need for such high amounts of storage? John. Fair point John. I was interested in order to get as much of the film on one master card. More of an issue now though is the revelation from Howy not to use Lexar cards especially after being told by the factory that these were the ones to use and having expended a substantial amount of money on these cards I really wish that Zaxcom would all sing off the same hymn sheet. This is the second occasion that inaccurate info has been given by the lesser minions of the company and has cost me and a couple of others here in the UK money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 I have a Transcend 128GB x800 living inside my Nomad at all times, and use it as an "internal drive". Only when it's full or near full do I pull it out, back up and swap. I only hand mirrored cards to clients, and these can be as small as 8GB to as big as 32GB depending on the job. I've been using this workflow quite successfully for over a year and wouldn't want to go back. Before I had to swap primary cards fairly often, and it was harder to keep track of what was what. Also, for primary cards I would only use Transcend, due to their proven track record with Zaxcom recorders, but for mirror cards, I've been able to use virtually anything. A lot of times I would even use the client's card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted March 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Thanks for this feedback Jose. You are doing exactly what I had in mind it's just this thing about Lexar that has thrown me a bit. I am hoping that someone senior at Zaxcom will reply with a definitive answer soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 I have the same 128 GB cards for my Nomad that Jose is using. I am pretty sure I tried one in my fusion before I sold it, but I can't confirm that 100%. Sorry. I can say that the two I have work perfectly in the nomad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 From the very early days, Zaxcom's consistent recommendation has been to use Transcend or SanDisk cards. It has baffled me that just about every time the recommendation is stated, someone will almost immediately ask, "What if I use so-and-so-brand card?" -- almost as if they wish to court failure. For anyone who desires to operate as reliably as possible, it may be wise to stay with Zaxcom's consistent recommendation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted March 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 All well and good John I would love to operate as you suggest but some clown in support recommended a product that Howy is now saying don't use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Malcolm Davies Amps CAS said: All well and good John I would love to operate as you suggest but some clown in support recommended a product that Howy is now saying don't use. That wasn't aimed at you, Malcolm. I didn't mean to imply that. I've been quite pleased with Transcend. I've run into only one bad card out of a few dozen, over a few years, and it wasn't during a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 On 13/03/2016 at 5:29 PM, howy said: 128GB should work but make sure you get something 400x speed or less. And stay away from Kingston, Lexar and Delkin. -howy Howy, I was hoping that you or someone from Zaxcom would respond to my post about card makes and speed but emails to the factory and requests for information here seem to have fallen on deaf ears. When you say 400x or less is 400 the max speed we can use or if its less how low can the speed be and can I use 128GB card for the primary? Malcolm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howy Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Most cards should work but I have seen strange behavior with Lexar, Kingston and Delkin. We recoemend Transcend and Sandisk The slower the card the better. 800X is probably too fast and we see some trouble with some cards that say UDMA7 on them. -howy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Thanks for that Howy. All the 128Gb Transcend are 800x and higher so it would appear that it has to be Sandisk as most of these are 160x. The only rankle is the fact that your support recommended 800x. Malcolm Davies. A.m.p.s. CAS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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