Philip Perkins Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Mr Trump claims his mic was defective last night--what does he mean? How was it defective? I didn't hear him drop out, I did hear a somewhat Dugan-y gain sharing thing happen when they talked over each other, but I didn't lose either of them in those scrums....? The gain-sharing thing did what it was supposed to do, I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnuarYahya Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Mr. Trump is a stupid liar and a sore looser that is what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCooper Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 My suspicion is that the FOH mixer only had his lav in the PA for the moments that Drumpf moves in close and eats the podium mic. Thus he doesn't hear himself in the room with the same proximity that he would expect. And it's probably set up for that exact reason. To protect from plosives/blowing out the mic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted September 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 He might be used to his live-rally PA rig where he can lean into the mic and get louder, I guess, for emphasis? In a broadcast setup that isn't going to fly, as was said, the levels will be tightly controlled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Althaus Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 IMO the lav was there for the broadcast mix only to catch the off-mic exchanges when the candidates aren't at their podium and maybe as a backup. It looks like a MKE-2 and the FOH guy would only use that as a last resort because it's an Omni. I have to do broadcast sound reinforcements gigs with MKE-2s all the time and aside from gain-before feedback issues you'd hear a lot more ambience/ PA wash than you heard during the debate. I believe we heard the podium mics only, both in the house as well as on the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Sonnenfeld Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 5 hours ago, AnuarYahya said: Mr. Trump is a stupid liar and a sore looser that is what happened. +1 Whole thing sounded fine to me. I heard all of his BS loud and clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCooper Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 You could definitely be right. Or the lavs could be cardioids and or/ the broadcast mixer clamped down on the cedar pretty hard. 19 hours ago, Werner Althaus said: IMO the lav was there for the broadcast mix only to catch the off-mic exchanges when the candidates aren't at their podium and maybe as a backup. It looks like a MKE-2 and the FOH guy would only use that as a last resort because it's an Omni. I have to do broadcast sound reinforcements gigs with MKE-2s all the time and aside from gain-before feedback issues you'd hear a lot more ambience/ PA wash than you heard during the debate. I believe we heard the podium mics only, both in the house as well as on the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al mcguire Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnuarYahya Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 lol tiny hands! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JensF Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 17 minutes ago, Mirror said: http://www.factcheck.org/2016/06/clintons-1975-rape-case/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, JenceF said: http://www.factcheck.org/2016/06/clintons-1975-rape-case/ From someone that was actually there: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3729466/Child-rape-victim-comes-forward-time-40-years-call-Hillary-Clinton-liar-defended-rapist-smearing-blocking-evidence-callously-laughing-knew-guilty.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 i am always wary of anything the daily mail prints. there are 3 stories that have appeared in their paper that i was involved in, and their story of events was significantly different from what actually happened. haven't clicked the link though due to my above bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Althaus Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Mirror, would it be a stretch to point out that your post about Hillary (the merit of which I won't discuss here because this is an audio forum) has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Oh, I thought this had already descended past that point and into "bash the candidate territory". Did I misinterpret? But, what difference at this point does it make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnuarYahya Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Mirror said: Oh, I thought this had already descended past that point and into "bash the candidate territory". Did I misinterpret? But, what difference at this point does it make? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Lfd1aB9YI Please watch this Mirror. I also don't like Hillary, but Trump is on another level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundmanjohn Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 The Daily Mail is currently being sued by Melania Trump for suggesting she was an illegal immigrant and a sex-worker. Could there possibly be a connection here? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/01/melania-trump-daily-mail-lawsuit And as Rich says, the paper doesn't exactly have a good reputation for accuracy in their stories: they went for a friend of mine in the most spectacular way with the biggest load of snide, suggestive bullsh*t I've ever read. She got a 'clarification' in a tiny paragraph a few months later, as far as I know. The editor is a foul-mouthed misogynist git whose paper regular prints pictures of teenage daughters of celebs with captions drooling over how "all grown up" they are. Pond scum, really, who's paid ten times more than the prime minister of the UK for feeding the paranoia of its prejudiced readers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Here's another source: http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/sexual-assault-victim-slams-hillary-clinton-for-defending-attacker-and-laughing-about-case/ I could go on for days about her slimyness; this is just the tip of the iceberg - but I'll end it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 The two stories (factcheck and Daily Mail) linked above don't really differ in their accounts by much. It's just the interpretation of this which is the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Rose Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 I thought the issue was the mic. I also thought Trump was saying the next morning that the mic was picking up his breathing/sniffing too loudly, which I suppose is possible if it's seriously compressed for broadcast. His voice didn't sound squashed to me... but who knows what additional processing there was between the venue and air. Slams of his or her sliminess don't belong in a professional forum, IMHO. You can find enough of that elsewhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnuarYahya Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Jay Rose said: Slams of his or her sliminess don't belong in a professional forum, IMHO. You can find enough of that elsewhere... This is true.. and it is good to remember. I apologise for bringing political views to a sound forum. I still believe there was nothing wrong with that mic tho.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 When Jeff relegated political discussion to its own corner of the JWS universe, the discourse here on the audio-focused arena improved dramatically. As evidenced by previous political spewings, it's obvious that the person sharing their political wisdom is incredibly insightful and everyone who disagrees is a clueless idiot, therefore there's no point other than verbal masturbation in engaging such discussions. Please, no matter from what branch of the political spectrum you source your Cool-Aid, for the sake of this awesome resource, let's keep it politics free! Show your respect for this site with no politics on the main board -- no matter how right you're convinced you are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted September 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 I asked what the problem was, if there was one, with DT's mic. When a soundie gets national criticism by a famous person who feels their performance was damaged by the sound rig, I want to know what happened so I can avoid making the same mistake, if there was a mistake. This thread was not intended to have any political content at all, so those of either stripe who feel the need to vent vs the candidate they don't like should start their own threads. If a director you didn't like complained about some aspect of your recording, you'd still deal with it as a professional, even though you didn't like them personally, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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